• Second Dog – Introducing a Second Dog into the Home
    by shibashake on
  • Many people consider getting a second dog in the hopes that a new dog will help keep the first dog busy and out of trouble. However, if our first dog is not well trained, it is more likely that our second dog will pick up his bad habits.

    In the end, we will have two furry terrors instead of one.

    I got my second dog one year after my first dog. I waited a year so that I had time to bond with my first dog (Shiba Inu Sephy) and properly train him. Only after I had solved most of Sephy’s behavioral issues did I consider getting a second dog.

    One of the biggest challenge of getting a second or third dog is introducing her to the existing pack and getting everyone to accept her. Here, we consider how to successfully introduce a second dog into the home.

    Introducing a Second Dog into the Home

    1. Meal Time Ritual

    Meal time is especially important in a multiple dog household.

    Dogs are opportunistic in nature, and during meal times, I have observed that they will try to steal each others food. This can often trigger food guarding and food aggression behaviors.

    I supervise my dogs during meal times so that there is no stealing. They each get several interactive food toys to work on and I make sure they give each other space while working on the toys.

    Often, Siberian Shania will work diligently on the toys while Shiba Sephy will just lie around sunning himself. He will wait until Shania is done with the toy, and pick up what she has left behind.

    He is such a moocher! :)

    Sometimes, he will test coming in before Shania is done with the toy, in which case I will step in and stop Sephy. In this way, the dogs learn that I will take care of things so that they don’t need to do it themselves.

    2. Attention, Affection, and Rules

    After getting a new second dog, it is natural to pay more attention and show more affection towards the new dog, especially if he is a puppy.

    However, we must resist that temptation and treat both dogs equally.

    If we give the second dog more attention and affection, we may create competition between the two dogs, which may later lead to aggression. Instead, make sure both dogs follow the same rules and get similar rewards for doing work for us.

    If we are too lenient with our second dog, and let him get away with more, the first dog will likely observe that, and pick up on those same bad habits.

    I like doing group obedience training with both dogs. This helps them work together for food, and be comfortable with each other around people, food, and toys. I also do their grooming sessions together including teeth cleaning, and fur brushing.

    Supervision is very important, especially in the beginning, to ensure that they learn good play habits and interaction habits with each other. I still supervise my dogs, but less so now that they are older and know the rules around the house.

    Still, Shiba Sephy will always try something from time to time to test his boundaries.

    He is that cool! :cool:

    3. Play-Time Rules

    In addition to meal-time rules, play-time rules are also important.

    Since Shania is a three legged dog, Shiba Sephy may sometimes overwhelm her when he gets over-excited.

    I always make sure he does not get too rough with her. I also institute a no-humping rule because it can be seen as a dominance move by other dogs (especially new dogs) and I do not want Sephy practicing these type of behaviors. Siberian Shania also dislikes it, so humping is a time-out offense for Sephy.

    Some people prefer to let the dogs “work it out for themselves”.

    Personally, I think it is best for the humans to set and enforce play-time rules and household rules. By doing so, I ensure that Siberian Shania never has to be fearful of Shiba Sephy, and vice versa. Since I am the one correcting their behaviors, both dogs do not have to do the correcting themselves, with their teeth.

    They both learn to see each other as playmates and equals, and if there is ever any trouble, they can come to me and I will take care of it.

    4. A Quiet Place to Rest

    When I first got Shania, I made sure that Sephy had a nice and quiet place to rest when he wants to be by himself, away from the nibbles of a new puppy. This is especially important if your first dog is older, and tires more easily.

    A new puppy can be a crazy ball of energy and a big handful, not just for the humans around the house, but also for the existing dogs.

    Set up a consistent routine for the second dog, as you did for your first dog. Make sure the second dog has a fixed schedule for meal-time, play-time, walk-time, and sleep-time.

    When it was time for sleep, puppy Shania went into her crate or puppy pen. In this way, Sephy got to rest and so did Shania. Now that Shania is older, it is no longer necessary, and both dogs are able to regulate themselves and give each other space when they need it.

    Still, they each have separate crates that they can go to when they want, and they also get to go out to the backyard when they want.

    If I am not home, which does not happen often, Siberian Shania prefers to stay out in the backyard and Shiba Sephy likes staying inside the house. I still do not trust them to be alone together in the house because their play can get pretty crazy and they may get over-excited and hurt themselves.

    Second Dog – Double Trouble or Double Fun?

    So which is it?

    Is a second dog double the trouble or double the fun?

    I think if properly handled, a second dog can be a big enhancement to everyone in the family.

    I am very glad Shania joined our family. Everyone has a happier, much richer life because of her spirit, exuberance, can-do’ness, and overall awesomeness!

    But she was a lot of work, especially in the beginning, and the dog bills are now double what they were before.

    Still, Shania gives a thousand-fold more than she gets and Sephy will be the first to say that he loves her more than words can say. When Shania is away, Sephy just spends his time moping around the house.

    Thanks to Colleen and Reptar for bringing up this fun and important topic.

    If you have second dog stories, tips, and advice, please share them with us below.

    12 Comments
    1. Colleen

      So we have it narrowed down! They’re Border Collie/Siberian Husky pups!

      There are 3 females and 4 males. Would two males dogs even if they are neutered still fight for dominance?

      10:58 am on May 18th, 2010 Reply
      • They’re Border Collie/Siberian Husky pups!

        They must be super good looking! Are there any links with pictures? Would love to see them.
        Both BCollie and SHusky are extremely high energy – so you will have a great exercise coach :D Got any names picked?

        Would two males dogs even if they are neutered still fight for dominance?

        Based on what I have read, two males are more likely to have friction, but then again I have also heard many stories of female Shibas who totally go ninja on their male counterparts. I think if you bring them up from puppy-hood with proper play and interaction rules, they should be fine.

        I don’t feel its fair to take 10 steps back and make Reptar sleep in his crate at night because the new dog will have to.

        Yeah I know what you mean. I felt the same way, but when the time came Sephy adjusted really well. I think Reptar will as well. Sephy was just so happy to have a dog companion, that he was really good with pretty much everything. Even now he seems to be perfectly happy to let Shania have her way almost all the time.

        Sephy actually sleeps in the crate at night and Shania gets to roam free. She doesn’t do things like crawl under the bed and start chewing at the frame :D

        This is so exciting! Take lots of pictures and share stories with us.

        4:04 pm on May 18th, 2010
    2. Colleen

      I have so many questions about a second dog and I feel like the right breed and proper research is incredibly important. We would love to get a rescue dog but with that, you can’t anticipate too much what traits the dog will have from what their mixed with and thats OK.

      I’m pretty sure I have the basics down. Vet bills, food, toys, treats, training, and supplies. I can wrap my head around that pretty easily.

      It’s the day-to-day stuff and other not obvious rules, especially in the beginning. I’m sure the dogs will find their routine over time. Reptar has his toys, the ones he loves and the ones he’s willing to share. I’m assuming this could present an aggression issue if the new dog takes a toy he’s not willing to share and obviously some rules and obedience measures will have to be enforced.

      In the “pen” or enclosed space you set up for your dogs, did Sephy ever try to get/jump out or knock it over?

      I think I’m more concerned about Reptar and how he will react and over-react. He has his routine and you know Shibas when their routines get messed up. They act out and are terrors of the night :) I love Reptar for his quirks. For example, at bed time, Reptar can sleep on the bed with us, in his crate, on the floor or just hang out but he has to stay in the bedroom. Obviously with a new puppy, he/she will not have this luxury as he will have to be properly trained and disciplined like Reptar. It’s about trust. That being said, I don’t feel its fair to take 10 steps back and make Reptar sleep in his crate at night because the new dog will have to. But how will that affect the new dog, and Reptar who will most likely be so intrigued by this new addition that is in another crate.

      It’s really the little things like that I’m concerned and curious about.
      Do you have any stories or tips about just day to day life? That may be a silly question but I hope you know what I mean.

      9:51 am on May 14th, 2010 Reply
    3. Allie

      Our first dog was a Mexican Hairless, she was about 8 months when we got our then 3 month old shiba. Surprisingly, they match each other’s energy levels perfectly. We also have 6 ferrets at home which helped to “numb” the prey drives of both pups.

      I do love the way siberians look, though.

      6:09 pm on April 13th, 2010 Reply
      • We also have 6 ferrets at home which helped to “numb” the prey drives of both pups.

        LOL – sounds like a whole lot of fun. Was it difficult to train your Shiba not to go after the ferrets? Does he generalize to other ferrets and small creatures?

        I do love the way siberians look, though.

        Yeah, Siberians are very beautiful. They also have a great and very affectionate personality. They are very high energy though, and my Siberian’s prey drive is very strong.

        For my next dog I am thinking of going with more obedience and possibility of off-leash :D

        8:37 am on April 14th, 2010
    4. My husband loves border collies but we know they aren’t the right breed for us at this time.

      Heh yeah, I also like border collies. We have a sheep herder that comes to the hills around our neighborhood during winter time and he has two border collies to help him with his sheep. They are super amazing and extremely focused on their work and handler.

      It is definitely one of the candidates for a third dog, but I don’t think I am ready for them either – lol. A trainer at the SPCA told me that she has to throw balls for hers all day long. Maybe when I move to a less populated area, and get some sheep ;)

      Since they are mixes, I’m not sure what traits they’ll get from each breed.

      I always prepare to get the worst traits from both breeds. That way, there will be a lot of pleasant surprises :)

      If you are thinking of getting a mix-breed, adoption may be a very good way to go. That way, you get to meet the dog first, see how they act around Shiba, and see which breed traits they show most.

      Do you have any thoughts on these and how they would interact with a Shiba? I’m more iffy about the rottweiler mix though because of their aggressive nature.

      I have met some really sweet Rotties and some not so sweet ones. People always say that any dog can be properly trained and I agree.

      However, personally, I feel that owning a larger dog is a bigger responsibility because they can do more damage (even just accidentally) and as a result should be more closely managed and trained. Larger dogs also tend to have more health issues and have a shorter lifespan.

      I would really like to get a GSD or GSD-mix next, but my other half is not so keen on it. GSDs tend to like their space and are iffy around Sephy because he just rudely butts into people’s personal area.

      Ok, I am starting to ramble :)

      Anyway, please keep us updated on your second dog search and hugs to Reptar! Make sure to remind him that he is a very lucky boy!

      9:34 am on April 7th, 2010 Reply
    5. One important factor I found is the age of the dogs.

      That is a very good point. As you say, it is a good idea to have the second dog closer in age to the first dog so that they have a playmate for life.

      I am thinking for getting a third dog but will space that out more time-wise since Sephy and Shania already have each other.

      Rocky was well behaved at his first obedience class, but he won’t sit on command without pushing his butt down. He can do it, he just doesn’t want to.

      LOL that is so like Sephy – part of that famous Shiba stubbornness. Sometimes when I ask Sephy to do a Down – he will wait for a bit, do a Stretch, and then accidentally go into a down position from the stretch.

      He is such a rebel! :cool:

      The only time he does commands efficiently and on cue is when I have something he really wants. He will work when he is hungry and there is cheese or freshly boiled chicken on the line.

      I like this about Shibas. I don’t like following commands either unless I get something good in return :D

      8:43 am on April 7th, 2010 Reply
    6. Colleen

      My husband loves border collies but we know they aren’t the right breed for us at this time. We’ve thought about a border collie mix though. Some of the breeds we like are border collie/lab mix and I also have fallen in love with a rottie/husky mix. Since they are mixes, I’m not sure what traits they’ll get from each breed. Do you have any thoughts on these and how they would interact with a Shiba? I’m more iffy about the rottweiler mix though because of their aggressive nature. It’s hard to look at the puppy’s face and see anything aggressive. Their faces make me melt!

      7:32 am on April 6th, 2010 Reply
    7. Colleen

      Thanks so much for this article! It was really helpful and pointed out a lot of other things to think about before bring home a second dog!

      7:03 am on April 6th, 2010 Reply
    8. Eric

      We’ve had our second dog Rocky, a 7 month old Shiba, for 2 months now. Our other dog Trixie, a basenji mix, will be 2 years old in May, and we got her when she was 8 weeks old.

      When we brought Rocky home they started playing immediately, after a few minutes of butt sniffing. Rocky had apparently been socialized as a puppy so she knew not to bite too hard. He has learned a lot from the older dog and is a great deal calmer than he would be if he were our only dog. I’ve read about many of the shiba’s crazy traits, and he doesn’t seem to exhibit many of the worst ones.

      One important factor I found is the age of the dogs. When we brought Trixie home, she was introduced to our old dog Scooby, a 14 year old dobe/lab mix. He didn’t have the patience for this new pup and didn’t appreciate being shoulder slammed, hip checked, and nipped by this youngster. Also, Trixie mouthed a lot and this was new to us, so it was a stressful couple of months until we got used to her habits, and she learned some obedience. She eventually bonded with Scooby and when he died over a year later, she moped around for quite awhile.

      When we brought Rocky home, we were fresh from having a mouthy puppy around, so it wasn’t such a change for us. Since Trixie has a playmate now, she has lost some weight and become a much healthier dog. Rocky was well behaved at his first obedience class, but he won’t sit on command without pushing his butt down. He can do it, he just doesn’t want to. Both dogs lay close to each other, if not touching. Also, their play has little if any dominance activity. Rocky will climb up on Trixie’s back and bite to get her attention away from me, but he hasn’t humped since he was neutered.

      Adding a second dog to our family has been a good experience, and an almost constant source of entertainment for us and our neighbors.

      2:36 pm on April 5th, 2010 Reply
    9. Hi Julie,
      Glad you enjoyed the article and many hugs to Tierce and Shassi. Love your humorous stories about them!

      A big Happy Easter and woof woof to you all :)

      12:26 pm on April 3rd, 2010 Reply
    10. I posted this link on the TMS Facebook page because it was so awesome. :D

      7:54 pm on April 2nd, 2010 Reply

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