A New Puppy – First 10 Days of Hell

I just got another Siberian Husky puppy (Lara) about 10 days ago and am going through a puppy training refresher course. Indeed, it is easy to forget how much work a new puppy truly is.

Therefore, I have decided to write this article of the first 10 puppy days while it is still fresh in my mind. The next time I even think of getting a puppy, I can re-read this article and hopefully remember what a big pain in the ass a new puppy is! :D

Days 1 & 2 – Nights from Hell

The first few days were not too bad. We mainly focused on introducing puppy to our other two dogs and making sure that our existing dogs saw puppy as a positive thing.

We also started on puppy potty training but puppy seemed to have that under good control. We did not have any mistakes – it was amazing!

However, puppy did cry at night. This is not surprising since it is the first time she is sleeping in a new location and without her litter mates. Puppy was feeling lonely, sad, and scared. The first couple of nights I had to wake up about 4 times. 2 times to take puppy out for potty, and another 2 times just to cuddle with puppy.

As a result I did not get much, if any sleep. Be prepared to get very little sleep in the first few weeks with a new puppy.

Days 3 & 4 – Puppy Potty Training Hell

The first few good potty training days lulled me into a false sense of security. On day 3 puppy made lots of mistakes all over the place.

I was around to supervise puppy the whole time, but I thought it would be ok to take short bathroom breaks while puppy was sleeping – WRONG!

I found out the hard way that constant supervision is absolutely necessary for potty training in order to prevent potty mistakes.

When I need to go to the bathroom or perform some other task, I now always put puppy in her play-pen or enclosure. There is a blanket, some toys, and puppy pads in the enclosure. This makes things a lot better because puppy either does her potty outside or on her puppy pads. I reward her for going outside, but I don’t reward her for going on her puppy pads.


I take puppy outside -

  • As soon as puppy wakes up.
  • After puppy feeding time.
  • After play or any other heavy activity.
  • Whenever it looks like she is about to potty, e.g. circling, pulling to go to corners, etc. Each puppy will have their own potty signs, so observe carefully to identify our puppy’s pre-potty behaviors.

If puppy tries to go inside the house, I am right there next to her so that I can non-mark her (Ack-Ack), interrupt her, and leave her in her enclosure to finish up. This allows me to quickly go back and clean up the mess while she is in her enclosure.

Constant vigilance and a fixed eating and drinking schedule are crucial in puppy potty training.

Day 5 – Puppy and Furniture Hell

On day 5 I nearly had a heart attack.

Puppy was sleeping nicely with me on the couch, when I started getting really hungry. The kitchen is in the next room, so I quickly stepped away to get a loaf of bread from the refrigerator – WRONG!

As soon as I got the bread, I hear this loud cry. I threw the bread on the kitchen counter and ran back to a crying puppy on the floor. She was holding one of her front legs up in pain.

Bad, bad ShibaShake!

Luckily, puppy was ok and was moving around without any sign of a limp within the next few minutes. Whew.

From then on, I am always with puppy. If I cannot be with puppy even for 1 second, she goes into her puppy enclosure.

Days 6 to 9 – Energizer Puppy Hell

At this point, puppy is a lot more comfortable with her new surroundings and is always up to something. It is tiring as hell to try and keep up with a hyper puppy.

In the beginning, I figured that my other two dogs can take up some of the slack. I was hoping that they would all play, have a lot of chasing and running goodness, and at the end of the day I would end up with 2 tired dogs and 1 tired puppy.

Indeed it worked out well at first. I supervised all play sessions and both my dogs played well with puppy. I stepped in as soon as things got too excited, and the dogs started getting too rough with puppy.

Things were looking up because puppy not only tired out Shiba Sephy, but she also conked out Husky Shania who is a big time Energizer Bunny herself. All I needed to do was stand around and step in at the appropriate times.

WRONG!

On day 9, Shiba Sephy ran over puppy before I could get to them and stop play. Puppy started crying, and was limping for the rest of the day.

Day 10 – Puppy in Vet Hell

On day 10, puppy was still limping so we took her to the vet.

It was fun, fun, fun – with temperature taking and various poking and prodding of body parts. Then, the vet had to put puppy’s leg through a series of pretty heavy handling.

Puppy was not happy.

$343 later, we had a conked out and unhappy puppy, with a sprained rear leg.

Thank goodness it wasn’t anything more serious, but no more off-leash play until puppy gets bigger.

To close, I feel it is only fair to say that there are also many advantages to getting a puppy. But … they require a lot of time, supervision, and energy to care for especially in the first few months.

Update

Day 12 – Puppy slept through the whole night without waking up. Hopefully there will be more such nights in the future.

Day 14 – Puppy’s limp is all gone. She now has free and good use of her rear leg. YAY!

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Comments

  1. Just got a new Siberian Husky puppy about 2 weeks ago and we are FINALLY seeing some progress on the potty training and some of the new puppy hell :) Thanks for your articles!

    • shibashake says:

      Congratulations on your new puppy!

      Yeah, once Lara was potty trained, things got a lot better. Big hugs to puppy. Husky puppies are just too adorable. :D

  2. And it’s a husky sorry i forgot to mention what breed she is

  3. I got my first puppy on the 2nd of may and its a girl we named her Maya and today she is rough to me but calm to my dad and brother?
    Do u think u know why?

    • shibashake says:

      Congratulations on your new Husky puppy.

      With my Husky puppy, two things matter most in terms of her behavior towards me-
      1. My own energy
      If I am angry, frustrated, fearful, excited, or otherwise not-calm, my puppy will pick up on my energy and get more crazy herself. To help my puppy stay calm, I needed to stay calm myself and control my own inner energy.

      2. My response
      When a puppy jumps or play-bites with us, our instinct is to shout at her, move away, or push her away with our arms and legs. This creates a lot of noise and motion, which usually gets my puppy even more excited, and she will jump and bite even more. From her point of view -

      Jumping + biting = Get a lot of attention and get to play a fun wrestling game.

      What helped me with my Husky puppy is to-
      a) Learn all that I can about dog behavior and dog training,
      b) Observe my puppy closely to see what motivates her and learn to properly communicate with her,
      c) Come up with a plan to redirect or retrain undesirable behaviors. At the same time I make sure to encourage good behaviors.

      Here is a bit more on how I trained my Husky puppy. In the beginning, my puppy did not know that people have soft skins and that she needs to control the force of her bites, and be less rough with people. I had to teach her what my people-rules are, and motivate her to follow those rules. Get your dad or mom’s help on this, and make sure that training is both fun and safe.

      Big hugs to Maya!

  4. Hi, my name’s Maria and I just bought a female husky like a month ago and everything is good except for the biting part :-) I think she knows I’m her alpha but she still bites me a lot. When she looks at me she puts her head down even if shes not on her kennel. We’ve had our starring contest and I win but when I pet her all she does is biting play. Sheknows my two youngest boys are a little scared of her. And she bites harder on them. I have been trying to search for answers or comments I’ve tried a few but it’s not really working. What should I do with her. :-) I’m not giving up on her just want to know from someone experienced. Thanks

    • All puppies bite when the play. They will grow out of it eventually but untill then I just just firmly tell her no then stop playing for a little while. As she gets older I will actually put my hand over her mouth and tell her no. Not around her mouth, just over her muzzle so she can get away but she knows I am talking about her biting. I praise her when she stops biting. Another aproach is to not play with her where she can get at your hands. always have a toy that is an acceptable bite toy. Of course accidents happen and you can gently reprimand her, stop playing for a little then go right back to playing. It will take a while, their little baby brains will learn through repitition. I like to compare them to human babies, I don’t expect them to learn certain things till they reach a certain age, same with puppies.

      Get her a tuggy rope so the kids can play tug with her while you supervise. Good luck and grats on the new puppy.

    • shibashake says:

      Congratulations on your Husky puppy!

      In terms of biting, this is what I do -
      http://shibashake.com/dog/how-i-trained-my-husky-puppy#bite-training

      Here are a few more things that I do to discourage biting.
      http://shibashake.com/dog/puppy-biting-tips-solutions

      Here is an article on dominance and bad dog behavior.

      I also do bite inhibition training with my dogs to teach them to control the force of their bites.

      Big hugs to puppy!

  5. Your puppy and doggies are adorable! I just got a 12-week old Bichon Frise puppy. Her name is Sassy. Thank goodness, she’s already crate broken… The challenge is getting her house broken. I just got her two days ago. I’ve taken her out several times in the mornings when she wakes up and about a half hour after she eats… Though, she’s been successful a couple of times outside, she has made some boobies inside… I’ve got puppy pads near her crate … but, she always skip them and use the carpet… Not sure when she’ll get it… I’m not too confident that I’m training her correctly…

  6. I need advice! I have a boxer mix and a lab mix, both 4 years old. They get along great together. On Friday my husband and I got a puppy and they have been so mean towards her. My boxer mix who usually loves to play with every dog at the dog park is acting extremely scared of her and is growling. Same for my lab mix. I have had other dogs over at our house And theyve never acted that way. I’ve tried having them sniff the puppy while she’s on her back and they’re not interested. The puppy wants to play but they growl at her. I’m afraid they’re gonna bite her,and not accept her. I really thought my boxer mix would love her and play with her.we have been giving the other dogs more attention and have been trying to praise them when they are waging their tail and petting them together with the puppy. What can I do? Help please, I’m desperate! Thank you

    • shibashake says:

      Here are some things that I do with my dogs to help them get along -
      http://shibashake.com/dog/second-dog-introducing-a-second-dog

      Some things that helped when I introduced puppy Lara to my other two dogs-
      1. I ensure that all interactions are positive or at worst neutral.
      2. I don’t force my existing dogs to interact with or be in the same area as my new puppy. I let them decide on their own when they want to approach and when not. I keep puppy Lara away from my other dogs and do not let her disturb them – until they are relaxed and ready.
      3. I make it *very very rewarding* for my dogs when they come near the new puppy on their own, are calm and relaxed.
      4. I go group obedience training and create other positive supervised activities. This helps my dogs to view the new puppy as a positive addition into their lifestyle.
      5. I supervise puppy Lara very closely. When I cannot supervise, I put her briefly in her puppy enclosure.

      Husky Shania accepted Lara right away, but I think it took about 5-7 days before Sephy was really relaxed around her.

    • It’s normal for the older dogs to not want anything to do with the new puppy. She’s not part of their pack…. yet. As shibashake says, don’t try to force the interaction, they will slowly adjust to the puppy and things will get better. My two older dogs wanted nothing to do with poor Luna either for the first 2 weeks. We just let them do as they pleased as long as they didn’t get so aggressive with her as to hurt her. She would run over to play with them and both would skitter away as if a bear had jumped out at them. It’s actually funny to watch two grown dogs running from a puppy. I kept the puppies food away from the adults food. This did double duty of my being able to keep the older dogs out of it and keep an eye on how much Luna ate every day. I free feed so Luna had access to the older dogs dish once she found out where it was. My dogs are not food aggressive so fights at the dish were not a problem.

      Like you, I thought my border collie cross would love the puppy and take her under her care but she was the one who skittered fastest. The chihuahua would stay up out of reach on the couch and growl at her if she got too close to her but now they all play together and I have no worries about them being mean to her.

      I expect the normal discipline from the older dogs. They are helping her to learn pack manners like not walking all over us, clawing at us or nipping us. The chi sounds like she’s ripping her throat out but it’s just the way she plays. Have patience, things will work out if you let it go at it’s own pace.

      Grats on the puppy btw.

  7. Wow.. thank you for all the insight. We got a 6 week old husky/aussie a few weeks ago and love her to death. She is now playing vigorously with our other two dogs, border collie cross and chihuahua. She has yet to learn their boundries though, she lunges up at them when they are sleeping on the couch and scares them awake. It’s funny but one day they are going to say “enough of this nonsense” and nail her good instead of snarling and snapping at the air in front of her nose. BcX is 2 and chi is 1 so they are not too old for fun with puppy. Outside it’s a free for all of fun with Luna (puppy) in the middle. Inside Luna is great but for the whining. I have never had such a vocal dog. She walks around most of the time whining and when we get down to play with her, she wanders off and leaves you just sitting there with the toys around you. Hubby says she’s telling us stories. lol

    She has very few accidents in the house, my son and I keep a close eye on her. After she has woke up, finished eating or playing we take her outside for potty then she gets to play for a while with her older doggy family. We can stay out for hours with her running around with them and she still whines when it’s time to come in. lol We stay out as long as it takes for her to go and praise her vocally for the good job she has done. She just looks at us like we are nuts for praising what she has to do anyway. :)

    As with all our dogs we call them to us and fuss over them then let them go so they don’t associate coming to us as time to go inside. We find it’s much easier to get them to come if we have some dried liver treats to reward them with at the start then work it up to just praise and release. She really hates coming inside so this really works well for her. Sometimes though she turns and looks at us like she’s saying “Are you nuts? Not time to go in yet!”

    She really hates it when she can’t see us. She can climb the stairs to the second floor but won’t go all the way up yet and the bathroom is up there soooo when we come downstairs again it’s like we have been gone for hours instead of a few minutes. If she is sleeping and wakes up to one of us gone, she will trot around the house whining till she finds that person then climbs all over them with joy.

    This is my first husky of any kind. Only ever knew one person with one and that was over 30 yrs ago and I remember him telling me that Sarge was smart but he was a handful even as an adult. I don’t understand the constant whining, vet says everything is good. I am thinking this could just be a husky thing and she will outgrow the need to tell stories all the time.

    OMG she’s whining again!! lol

  8. I had a puppy – that I brought home 2 weeks ago. I’ve had similar feelings and I’m dead tired. Fortunately, he started sleeping through the night the first night and loves his crate – falling asleep right away. I do have some puppy blues and wonder if I’m cut out for motherhood! I’m like when will this end, haha. People keep telling me he’s amazing and does so much for his age, but when you’re the one dealing with the day to day it can seem like it will never end. I did a ton of research and what not beforehand – oh well!

    • shibashake says:

      Fortunately, he started sleeping through the night the first night and loves his crate – falling asleep right away.

      Hahaha, that is great and also very adorable.

      I did a ton of research and what not beforehand

      That sounds like a great mom to me.

      I think the first few weeks were the most difficult with Lara, because of the potty training, and also making sure she got along with Shiba Sephy. After Lara was potty trained, she needed less supervision, and things got a lot more fun and less stressful. :D

      Big hugs to your puppy!

  9. Hello! We just got a Shiba inu puppy 2 days ago. He is about 9 weeks old but I’m a lil worried because I think he is not eating or drinking a lot. We are trying to potty train him so we just feed him 2 times a day but leave his water in his crate. The thing is that he doesn’t seem very hungry and he never finishs his food he eats and I guess when he is full he stops. Today he drank water just once and went to pee only once. Still he hasn’t had any accidents in the house. My husband took him out last night before bed time and again around five because he started crying but he did potty when out. I took him out this morning and he did pee. Again we took him out at lunch time but he didn’t pee this time. Should I be worried? Is that normal for a dog his age? He doesn’t seem to be in any kind of pain when trying to pee but I find it strange that he doesn’t pee that much. Thank you :)

    • shibashake says:

      What food is he currently eating? Unlike my Huskies, Shiba Sephy is pretty picky about his food. He is also allergic to wheat, so we go grain-free with all of our dogs. If Sephy is not really hungry, he won’t eat lower priority food such as kibble. Sometimes, he will also hold-out, in the hope that he will get something better. :D Sephy does not drink as much, or pee as often as my Huskies.

      Has puppy gone for his initial vet checkup? How is his energy level? Does his stool and urine look normal? Is there anything else that seems unusual?

      When in doubt, I usually give my vet office a call and talk with the vet tech. They can be very helpful.

    • Jennifer says:

      Thank you so much for your response!! :)

      I got some of the dry food he was eating from the breeder, (I think it was Solid Gold) but he didn’t seem very interested so I checked here for some advice and saw about the allergies so I got him Blue Wilderness (dry food-no grain) for puppies, now I’m starting to mix it so he doesn’t get an upset stomach from the change. He is eating a liltle more now. He eats in the morning and around 6 again. His stool and pee seem normal. The only thing I noticed is that is he scrathing a lot, like he is itchy. I checked his skin and he has some white flakes :( . I was researching and found that it could be the heat in my apartment.

      He got his first shots from the breeder and I’m planning on taking him to the vet next week for his checkup.

    • shibashake says:

      My dogs have some white flakes too, from time to time. It is little bits of dry skin that come off from scratching and playing. I think some white flakes is pretty normal.

      In terms of scratching, there could be many reasons for it. Is he scratching at only particular areas or all over? Is it all through the day or only at particular times of the day? Is there any hair loss?

      Sephy itched a lot when he was young because of a food allergy. He would pretty much itch all over. Shania had itching and slight hair-loss when she was young due to skin parasites. The itching in this case was only around her face and feet, where she first got the parasites. Here is a bit more on dog itching and scratching.

      Big hugs to puppy! Let us know how things go with his vet checkup. He is a lucky Shiba to have found such a good mom. :D

    • Hi Shibashake! Thank you for taking the time to reply :)
      He usually itches in his back at the base of his tail (that’s where is saw the white flakes), on the top part of his paws and on his sides. ( I guess that’s pretty much all over lol) Yesterday I saw him scrathing his face with the carpet.
      I’ll let you know what the vet said. Thank you for thinking of me as a good mom <3 trying to be the best for my boy hehehe :p

  10. I have a pup still on her mom if i bring her in the housr for one hour will my dog still feed her

  11. I just got a 7week old BEAUTIFUL siberian husky puppy sunday. I am having a few problems that i need help with. Hes great about using the bathroom outside but when i get off work everday hes pooed EVERYWHERE! Im worried him being alone all day is going to force us to have to get rid of him. I want what is in his best interest but ive been told huskys are fine being in a kennel for the day. I just moved to a rural new area 2 months ago and have noone to take him out during the day. I also work an hour away. He also whines allllllllll night..literally, he does not sleep and whines so much that he lost his voice for an entire day. Im absolutly in love with this puppy but i really need some advice on what to do. For anyone who has answers i would appreciate it so very much. Thank you!!!

    • shibashake says:

      when i get off work everday hes pooed EVERYWHERE!

      Where is the puppy during work hours? Puppies do not know where to do their business initially, so some potty training will be necessary. Potty training will require a fair amount of time and supervision.

      I want what is in his best interest but ive been told huskys are fine being in a kennel for the day.

      Dogs are pack animals and need/want to be with their family. This is especially true for a younger dog, and even more true of a Siberian Husky. Sibes are an affectionate breed and like interacting with people. Both my Sibes are happiest when they get to enjoy the company of people, preferably together with exploring the great outdoors, combined with special stops for hunting and digging.

      A puppy needs to be potty trained, obedience trained, and needs structured positive activities with human supervision. The Siberian Husky is a very high energy, independent breed and will need more structured exercise, more training, and more supervision than most other breeds. A Husky puppy needs supervised time to get used to his new environment, to learn house rules, and bond with his new family.

      He also whines allllllllll night..literally, he does not sleep and whines so much that he lost his voice for an entire day.

      How much exercise does he get daily? Where does he spend the night – inside or outside? Near to his people or by himself? The continuous whining and pooping everywhere could also be signs of separation anxiety. Dogs may also get stressed from uncertainty and large changes in their environment.

      My Huskies needed a fair amount of supervision and training when they were young. Now that they are older, and know house rules, they require less management. However, I make sure to walk them for about 1.5 hours every day, we continue to do obedience training, we play in the backyard, and they also have vigorous wrestling sessions (supervised) with each other in the mornings and evenings.

      A Siberian Husky requires more people time because of their high energy and their people loving nature.

  12. Samantha Martin says:

    Hi I have a 14 week old female husky mya she is brilliant I also have a 2 yr old husky. .. ive noticed that when the pup aits she doesn’t fully straighten he front right paw and bends it slightly she isnta limping and walks/ runs fine with no limping at all and she hasnt hurt it either just wondering what this could be it doesn’t bother but its worrying me and my partner has any one gor any ideas? ? Thanks

    • It is probably best to have a vet look at it. I wouldn’t take any chances with leg joints and movement.

  13. I just found a 6 to 7 week old puppy and I have a 8 month old corgi mix how can I get my older dog to start warming up to him and playing with him or even being around him without trying to bite him and they both are boys and this is new to me my first dog was a girl he (the corgi)liked her soon as the meet but we shower them both love I just don’t know what to do

    • Here are some things that helped when introducing my new Sibe puppy, Lara, to my other two dogs-
      1. I established clear dog-to-dog interaction rules. Then I slowly teach those rules to Lara. In this way, she knows what to expect from my other dogs and vice versa.
      2. I establish a fixed routine and consistent house rules. In this way, Lara knows when play time is and more importantly, when it is time to rest.
      3. I make sure that Lara does not disturb my other dogs when they want to rest. A puppy is usually very energetic and will want to play all of the time. This is not the case with my older dogs.
      4. I make sure to create positive experiences between Lara and my other dogs. In this way, they will see her as an enhancement to their lifestyle. Similarly, I supervise and carefully manage them so there are no negative experiences.
      5. I supervise play sessions and throw in many breaks. This allows me to manage their excitement level, so that “play” doesn’t become too intense and turn into something else.

      Here is more on what I did while introducing a new puppy to my existing dogs.

    • Thank you they have warmed up to each other more everyday so as of the 21 this will be day five and of us having him and Riley (my corgie) act like that’s his son sometimes he is still a little uneasy on the new puppy being on the bed with him because that’s where he sleep but its getting better everyday less fights and more playing so thanks a lot

    • Riley (my corgie) act like that’s his son sometimes

      That is great to hear! I am so glad that the two dogs are getting along so well.

      Big hugs to your furry gang and lots of Kudos to you for turning things around so quickly. Lucky dogs!

  14. TIRED! I’m too old to be a 10 week old Aussie mom. What am I doing? Lost my Britt, 6 on Nov. 23…so it was now or never since I have a 9 yr. old Brittany and 2 yr old Siamese. We are all acclimated…sleep through the night (together) but puppy keeps me alert! So sleepy. Me. He is asleep right now. There is a dog God. Spent the afternoon building a fortress(es) around a room so he doesn’t shred anymore cords. He has a dozen of toys other puppies would love but he’s a bundle of energy! — Tired and Infatuated

    • Yeah the first couple of weeks are the worst. Still, puppy cuddles are very awesome. :D

      How is the little-one doing? Have you chosen a name?

      Hope you have managed to catch up on some Zzzz’s and big hugs to the little one!

  15. I got a puppy today, and i’m so exited! Hazel has had a couple accidents. She hates walking to the backyard! She’s a german shepard/lab mix, and very laid back, though it might just be because shes tired. Hazel is currently conked out on the rug – it was a long day for her, as nothing came with her, and we spent nearly an hour and a half in petsmart.

  16. Hello.
    I have a puppy I had her for about a week now she 8 weeks old, she loves me and my boyfriend but the landlord wont let us keep her anymore, not because she loud and barks or is staining the rugs, we actually have no clue why, but I need advice she is gunna have to stay at my parents house for now until we find a new place will she love us the same since she wont be sleeping with us yet another person for months? I mean we will have her all day when we arent working just at night we wont have her at night anymore breaks my heart but it will hurt more if she dont love us the same way. Im so worried.

    • shibashake says:

      Hello Stephanie,

      Sorry to hear about the landlord’s decision. I think dogs bond with all the people who spend time positively interacting with them.

      It sounds like you will still get to spend a lot of time with puppy, and it is great that the puppy gets to spend time with your parents as well. This just means there are more people for puppy to play with, more people for puppy to love, and more fun things for puppy to do.

      This is a bit more on what I learned from my dogs about bonding.
      http://shibashake.com/dog/build-a-strong-bond-with-your-dog

      Big hugs to puppy!

    • Thank you so much for that article made me feel so good, cause I already do half of it! :)
      makes me feel like im a good pet owner, and my puppy gets to see her mom and dad almost every week and they play, The only thing that worries me is if she wont obey me. cause she don’t see me as the pack leader.

    • shibashake says:

      I am glad you enjoyed the article. :D

      In terms of pack leadership, what works well with my dogs is resource management training. Essentially, I teach them that the best way to get what they want, is to do something simple for me first. This is also known as Nothing in Life is Free or NILIF.

    • Thank you so much :) help me alot she doing very well, with listen to me and my boyfriend and we took her for her first walk at the doggy park she did awesome :) thank you.

    • YAY! Glad it is working out so well. Big hugs to puppy!

  17. So I just got a siberian husky pup who’s ten weeks, because my girlfriend’s mother used to breed them. So I have been trying to do as much research as I could on the breed because I have never owned one. After having my pup for the last week I thought he was extremely stubborn, but after reading the other comments below I realize that he is actually a very good puppy. the only problems I have noticed is that he has a slight problem paying attention to his name, he is stubborn at times, pulls on his leash, but does good when I do a fast paced walk, but the biggest is that he has many accidents in the house. I take him out many times after he eats, plays, or wakes up, but he seems to wait until he comes back inside before he goes which is anoying. Still compared to all the other stories I have read he is very good and learning very well.

    • my lab pit mix does the same thing however i have found that if you get a little piece of poo and leave it in the area where you want him to go this will help. I take my puppy out about every 1.5 to 2 hours whether she is awake, asleep, eating, whatever. I make sure and take her out once before bed for about 20-30 minutes just to make sure. you can always out wait your puppy because their bladders are small and they lack the ability to hold it for very long.

  18. Mohamed Eldin says:

    Hi Shibashake,

    I just wanted to thank you for all the articles you’ve written thus far, you’ve helped me a lot in avoiding the myths my friends tried to teach me, such as taking dog and shove his nose in his poop, etc…

    What I wanted to ask was, I went with your advice on the schedule, and everything worked out brilliantly yesterday. The fact that Enzo is a Shiba Inu helps a lot, as he doesn’t like to poop or pee where he sleeps or plays.

    Today things are good so far, but I did the silly mistake of walking up in a bit of a panic, and took him to pee straight away, forgot to give him his breakfast, now he took it AFTER coming back home.

    He doesn’t seem to be in the need to poop, so I’ll wait 2 or 3 hours before taking him outside again, but if I do this mistake again, would it be costly? Or should I always feed him before taking him outside? How quickly to puppies and dogs digest anyways?

    Thanks for your time Shibashake! Will be waiting for more articles like these.

    Eldin

    • I usually feed Sephy before taking him out in the mornings.

      but if I do this mistake again, would it be costly?

      I don’t think missing now and then should be a problem. Occasional small and slight changes to his routine, does not really bother Sephy.

      How quickly to puppies and dogs digest anyways?

      What I have read is that it can take up to 24 hours or more to go through the entire digestive system. There will be variability depending on type of food, intestinal pH, etc. According to Wikipedia, food stays about 4-6 hours in the dog’s stomach.

  19. Shiba Shake! I’m getting desperate. We just got a new Siberian Husky puppy who is 10 weeks old. It happened quickly (for me, my husband had been thinking about it) and I continually question the wisdom of such a move (although he seems firm on it being a good idea.) For a short while, maybe about a day or so, I found the Dog Whisperer and thought all my problems would be answered and I could have… well, maybe not a perfect dog, but a dog who would hopefully not chew on the stuff she wasn’t supposed to chew and not dig where she wasn’t supposed to dig. I’m still reconciling myself to the shedding and the pulling and the rest of it. And that’s when she finally grows up.

    And then I discovered that Cesar’s training might not be right for my puppy (in just the two days, I think I’ve discovered that the discipline bit made her more likely to bite and the simple redirect… while she wasn’t fooled… seems to send a better message to her) and that his training way is supposed to be done by professionals and isn’t always advisable… leaving me at my wit’s end again.

    And it’s not that she’s bad. We’re still in the first 10 days of hell and this is my first dog and my first puppy and my first husky (I know I know, bad idea). Her name is Luna, like I said 10 weeks, I believe she’s medium level energy, and she’s 18 pounds.

    So now that I’ve totally confused myself on how to train a dog because there are so many conflicting resources, I really want to know, what should I do?

    On walks, she pulls forward or pulls back. We currently have a harness that we leave on her during the day and the leash attaches at the back. I knew she was going to be active and wanted to run with her eventually, so I thought that would be a good position for running. Bad idea? I noticed you said you take the harness off when at home and use a collar. We are obviously still trying to house train her, so would the harness only be used for walks? I’ll need something easy to access to take her out to the backyard as it is currently not completely fenced in. The harness is also a little big for her. She can slip out if we pull the wrong way and she can get to it to chew on it… we were hoping she’d grow in pretty fast as she was already so big at 10 weeks.

    Also, she has her “demon dog” phases. After a nap or even after a walk, she’ll sometimes have so much energy that in taking her back from her potty break, she’ll be jumping and grabbing the leash and nipping my clothes and sometimes growling. When I get her back inside, she’ll tear through the house, chewing on the carpet, her harness, my clothes, my hand, whatever is the closest. I keep trying to redirect her to one of her chew toys, but that never lasts for long and I mostly end up freaking out about this terror puppy until she finally calms down and sleeps. What the heck do I do? I don’t really like the uncontrollable energy as it often seems to lead to inappropriate behavior (chewing on the wrong things, nipping) and I really really don’t like the nipping. I want her to grow up to be a very well behaved dog that won’t bite anyone. Scolding makes her want to bite back more. People say the energy bursts is a puppy thing, and I’ll deal with it then, but I want to be able to eliminate the more destructive and dangerous aspects. Also, what really works for this? I’ve heard to ignore them when they’re jumping and nipping, but that only focuses on the behavior directed toward me… and doesn’t always save my clothes. I tried to redirect just now back to a chew toy and she just came out of nowhere (after I had turned away) and bit my hand. Call for attention? What should I do? I really don’t like getting bitten and really want to discourage it.

    We have a crate which will be plenty big enough for her as an adult (I’m afraid it’s actually too big) and no dividers, although she’s had only one accident (and that was kind of our fault, we had to leave for a period longer than she probably could take too soon after we got her). She’s actually doing decent with it. We still have to use treats to get her to walk in on her own and she’ll whine for a short bit, and we still try to wake up and take her out when we hear her up at night… just cause everything says to take puppies out when they wake up. Then we’ll bring her back in and put her back into the crate. We can sleep decently like this.

    As far as house training, she keeps having accidents. Some I think are excited ones because we’ll have just recently taken her out and she’ll be hyper hyper and then squatting before we even see it. I thought it was “after” play I was supposed to take her out, but this happens in the middle. She only pees on the carpet, usually the one in the study. She actually just pooped in front of the back door which I find really weird and annoying. She hasn’t pooped all day even though I keep taking her out and I just took her out about fifteen minutes ago and now she decides to poop.

    As far as play time… how do I play with her? It’s winter and the back yard isn’t fenced. She has no interest in fetching the ball we throw and I’m not sure if she is actually enjoying tug-of-war and seems to move from that to nipping pretty easy. Am I allowed to let her win it? Hide the treats in the toy thing? If we aren’t walking outside, she seems perfectly content to sit down and chew on whatever she’s found, but I don’t think that’s really playing. I don’t like playing with her at home because she’s usually only interested when she’s hyper and moves to biting. It seems obvious she doesn’t respect me at all, and pays better attention to my husband without biting him as much.

    You say to sometimes reward with toys and discipline by taking them away… but a certain amount of toys always needs to be out, right? Like a chew toy to redirect her toward?

    And one question I keep asking… this method sounds like a lot of work… and having a puppy is already a lot of work… will I ever be able to do anything else with my life? Or am I stuck puppysitting until I’m stuck dogsitting until whatever her lifespan is? Can they finally be taught not to chew on stuff they aren’t supposed to chew on if unsupervised? I’m not expecting it in the early months or until at least after teething, and I’d probably still use the kennel if I left, but at this point I’d just like to be able to turn my back or use my computer for a little bit without having to worry.

    I don’t think I’m prepared for all this, but I already have the puppy, so I need to get prepared.

    I currently suck at the calm-assertive thing. I just get so frustrated.

    • Yeah, I also had a difficult time with Sephy in the beginning. It was the worst in the beginning, because I didn’t really know what was the best way to respond to Sephy when he started acting crazy – which seemed like almost all of the time. I didn’t have time to eat, didn’t sleep well, and was under a lot of stress. My neighbors, people at the vet, vet techs, Sephy’s breeder, and various friends gave me all kinds of conflicting advice. It was not good.

      Several things helped -
      1. I started doing a lot of reading on dog behavior and dog training.

      Most dog training and behavior modification techniques are based on conditioning. There is classical conditioning and operant conditioning. Here is my understanding of how dogs learn. Here is a brief description of operant conditioning.

      Within operant conditioning, there are reward based techniques and aversive based techniques (this is where most disagreements arise). In addition, timing, energy, execution, and surrounding context are also very important in dog training. These things can be difficult to get exactly right without someone to show us in real-time.

      Where I got my information-
      a) I read books by behavioral psychologists, especially studies related to dog and animal behavior.
      b) There is also useful information on the various SPCA and Humane Society sites.
      c) I got a lot of useful information from other Shiba Inu owners who have faced similar issues with their dogs.

      Here is a bit more on how I trained my Husky puppies.

      2. Start with small steps.

      If I considered everything at once, it was easy to get overwhelmed. Therefore, I just focused on two or three of the most important issues. I researched all of them, and came up with a detailed plan on how to respond to each.

      If Sephy does A, I would do A1; if Sephy then responds with B, I would do B1, etc.

      Once I had a good multi-step plan, I was able to focus on it when Sephy starts with his craziness. This helps to keep me more calm and more in control.

      3. I set up a fixed schedule and followed the NILIF program.

      NILIF stands for Nothing in Life is Free. Is is a nice framework for motivating my dogs to follow house rules and to teach them that they get what they want most, by doing work for me. Here is more on how I practice NILIF with my dogs.

      Re Walking & pulling -
      http://shibashake.com/dog/leash-training-your-dog

      Re Biting -
      http://shibashake.com/dog/puppy-biting-how-to-stop-puppy-biting#timeout

      You say to sometimes reward with toys and discipline by taking them away… but a certain amount of toys always needs to be out, right? Like a chew toy to redirect her toward?

      I have a bunch of lower priority toys out that my dogs play with whenever they want. However, I have rules about toy play, and one of them is that they don’t steal from each other. I only leave them very safe chew toys. Soft toys I only use under supervision.

      Also, when I give or reward my dog with food or a toy, it is his to do with as he chooses, for as long as he wants. It general, it is not a good idea to take food or items that are given as rewards back – especially by force. This will teach our dogs to protect his stuff because when we come near, we may take it away. This leads to food and resource aggression.

      When my dog misbehaves, I may take away a privilege that he enjoys, e.g. affection from people, access to the backyard. I may also withhold rewards that he has failed to earn. When he is done playing with a toy, I may store it away. However, I do not take back previously given items by force.

      this method sounds like a lot of work… and having a puppy is already a lot of work… will I ever be able to do anything else with my life?

      Heh, yeah, it kindda felt like that with Sephy in the beginning, but it got better. I started learning a lot more about dog behavior and dog body language, I started to see where Sephy was coming from, and I began to understand why he does what he does.

      Having a plan helped me stay calm, and being calm helped Sephy to calm down as well.

      Small steps – learn a bit more every day – come up with new plans as necessary – stay calm – and it got better for the both of us.

  20. Hey, I really want a dog, and I KNOW my mom isn’t kidding when she says how much work they are. I even offered to pay for the dog, but not the supplies! The frustrating thing is that she wants a dog, and our conditions at the moment are JUST RIGHT for a new puppy.
    (sorry for the rant)

    • @shvana6: Your mom is a hundred percent, absolutely right! A puppy is a lot of work. Never mind the cost of the puppy, think about the expenses you’ll incur for the vet (at least a 100 bucks per visit, and you’ll have to visit MANY MANY times), the licensing, spaying/neutering the puppy, puppy food (which is a lot more expensive than adult food), insurance fees, toys, treats, and obedience classes. Not to mention the time and sleep you will have to give up in order to care for your puppy. I am a new owner of a 4 month old puppy and now that I think about it, owning a puppy is like having a baby, except a baby doesn’t bite. I got my puppy at 9 weeks old and now, after more than a month of sleepless nights, I am now only reconciling the fact that I am 3 grand poorer since my puppy came. I need to walk my puppy at least two times a day (an hour each), even if it’s negative degrees outside. I also wake up at 12am and then 4am just to take it to go potty. Mind you, I’m not regretting anything and I’m not discouraging you from getting a puppy either, but don’t think owning a puppy stops at just the cost of buying one. If you really must get a puppy, the only advice I can give is to consider buying one in the spring or the summer when it’s not too cold to walk it and potty train it.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Our Shiba girl will be 15 years old on April 8th. She is everything ever written about the breed and then some. She continues to entertain us with her never ending drama/comedy act. She has been very healthy and although her hearing is going (I think)she still has her puppy moments where she thumps up the stairs as if she is a mastiff.

    • shibashake says:

      Many early Happy Birthday wishes to your Shiba girl! She sounds wonderful.

      She continues to entertain us with her never ending drama/comedy act.

      LOL! I love that. Sephy is also a fun and very unique dog. He always does things that I would not expect, and that my other dogs would never do. Shibas really are such “characters”!

      Big hugs and tummy rubs to your Shiba girl. My Sibes also send their best wishes and lots of licks. Shiba Sephy says “do I get a share of the birthday cake?”. :D

  22. Copper and Sebastian arrived here this week, and I have immediately bonded with them and discovered all their “Shiba” quirks…They are so different than my Siberians, I made a really nice kennel for them, and they seem to be adjusting well.

    I spend lots of time with them getting them used to being here, and letting them know I care about them, they have not been the trouble I figured they would be, and to be honest, so far , have been a joy to have.

    Maybe 6 months from now, I will post a different song!

    Thanks for all the good info on Shibas!

    • shibashake says:

      Hi Bruce,
      Glad to hear that Copper and Sebastian and adjusting so well to their new home.

      I would love to hear more about how you think your Shibas are different from your Sibes. When I was looking for my first Sibe, it seemed that the general description for both breeds were pretty similar – independent, strong-willed, not to be left off-leash, etc. However, as you say, once you actually experience both breeds, they are quite different!

      Also point us to some pictures. Would love to see your whole pack!

  23. How much of that is Sephy and how much of that is Shiba do you think?

    I keep thinking Kiba is super atypical. He’s a lot like my toddler – strong willed, but works within his boundaries mostly. :-D

    • shibashake says:

      How much of that is Sephy and how much of that is Shiba do you think?

      Very good question! I think a big part of it was probably me, since I didn’t know how to respond properly to a Shiba. However, I think the breed played a big part as well.

      In the beginning, I really thought that Sephy’s temperament was a result of not the most careful breeding. Indeed several trainers told me that Sephy is on the super-Shiba scale. However, the Shiba breeders I have visited told me that he is a typical Shiba. I think the Shiba breeders probably have more experience on this matter. :)

      Comparing my Shiba and Siberians even now, Sephy is a lot more stubborn, less trusting, less food focused, challenges me more, and is frequently testing his boundaries.

      He is not necessarily a lot of work, because he has a lot less energy and does not need as much exercise; but he does come up with many original Shiba moves to test us. :D

  24. Lara’s georgous, good luck with her. Is she harder work than Sephy was?

    • shibashake says:

      Is she harder work than Sephy was?

      Heh, even though a puppy is a lot of work, Lara is much easier than Sephy. I have to put in a lot more work in terms of potty training, but Lara is -
      1. A lot less stubborn.
      2. She is very food focused which simplifies training. Shibas are less food focused.
      3. She is a lot more trusting, a lot easier to groom, and also handle at the vet. It takes a lot more to gain a Shiba’s trust.
      4. She is very affectionate, and follows us around everywhere.

      You may enjoy this article where I compare Sephy and Shania -
      http://shibashake.com/dog/shiba-vs-siberian

  25. Ziva, as of Easter Sunday, is still shedding up a storm. It’s actually sped up somewhat, so I’m hoping she’ll go ahead and blow it here pretty soon. We bathe, we brush, we furminate….and still…

    With Ziva, undercoat is a renewable resource. :-)

    • shibashake says:

      “With Ziva, undercoat is a renewable resource.”

      LOL! You should convert the fur into yarn and sell special Shiba sweaters online. ;)

  26. What a combination,Siberians and Shibas…..

    First time posting.

    Appreciate all the great information provided here, I have learned so much….that said, I have 8 Siberians, and soon to have 2 Shibas…which is why I am writing…

    To make the story short, a local animal welfare person contacted me about a couple wanting to find a home for two male Shibas…they didnt have time for them, all the standard excuses. I decided to take a look at them and they are two males about 5 yrs and 6 yrs, father and son…the father is not neutered, the son is.

    I have always wanted a Shiba, just wish it had been just one, but decided to take in both of them. The couple agreed to some concessions, having the father neutered, donating the kennel they are in , and wanting to take them back if they dont work out with me.

    My visit with the 2 Shibas, immediately taught me they are not like my Siberians, and they cannot be treated the same. All of my Siberians are older dogs, no puppies, and are kenneled and walked every day.

    Any advice on introducing the 2 Shibas to my gang?

    I realize I am going to have to drastically have a different mindset around the Shibas….

    And last, just a great website..and thanks for your work.

    • shibashake says:

      Hello Bruce,

      A big kudos to you for helping Shibas in need. :D

      Any advice on introducing the 2 Shibas to my gang?

      As you have noticed, Shibas tend to be a bit more particular about most things compared to Siberians. When I brought the puppy home, Siberian Shania took to the puppy right away. Shiba Sephy however, took much longer to accept her into his friends and family list.

      Unlike Sibes, Shibas have a much stronger protection drive, and as a result, they do not trust as easily.

      You probably already know all this, but here are some of the things I did when introducing puppy -
      1. Only introduce them one on one.
      2. I started with Shania because she is a very submissive dog.
      3. Shibas can get protective over toys, food, and food toys. So I made sure there were no toys or food about.
      4. I had both Shiba Sephy and puppy on leash just in case. Some Shibas are leash aggressive, so ask the prior owners about this. Even now, Shiba Sephy is on a drag lead.
      5. My Shiba is very sensitive about new dogs sniffing his butt. Once he trusts a dog, he is ok with it, but he does not allow new dogs near his sensitive areas. So in the beginning I kept puppy away from his sensitive zones.

      I went very slowly and made their time together very positive. I usually get the dogs to do obedience exercises together so that I can reward them when they are together, and get them to work together.

      Even with this, it took Shiba Sephy about 1 week before he started to accept new dog into his trust circle. I was a bit worried the first few days, so I am really glad it was just a time issue.

  27. Lara is gorgeous–congrats! Looks like Sephy and Shania are enjoying her too.

    • shibashake says:

      Thanks Brett! Yeah, Shania took to her right away. Sephy was a bit more hard to get, but Lara has charmed her way into his circle of trust. :D

      Hugs to Ziva. How is her shedding?

  28. AntlerAdam says:

    He’s hasn’t looked back! Thank goodness.

    Somehow, we got the most stubborn puppy in a head strong bread. He hates walking on his leash. I hope that it’s only because he’s 12 weeks old (as of tomorrow). Clicker training and hand targeting only get us so far. He only wants to walk on his terms and I’m going to be the last person to give in. So essentially our walks turn into stands.

    Any thoughts? Is he too young to really be interested in walks? I really want to drain his energy…

    • shibashake says:

      The 180 turn around actually works quite well with Sephy. If he starts to pull I turn around and move in the opposite direction. When he was young and pulled over his given quota, I would just walk on home and try again later. Since he really liked being outside, ending the walk was a big downer for him. He was willing to control his pulling to prolong his outside experience.

      In terms of making outside walking more fun I would play the Find-It game with him. I show him I have some chicken and throw it a very short distance away from him and say “Find-It!”. He liked playing this game especially when he was a puppy. When he found it, I would make a big deal of it and reward him. Then I repeat. Once he knows the game, I throw the pieces farther away or close to bushes so it becomes more challenging.

      When Sephy was young and not used to the leash I would sometimes let him walk around with it in the house. I only did this under supervision to make sure that the lead did not catch on anything. This gets him used to the leash -weight, smell, etc. With my current puppy I am starting by walking her in the backyard first. Once she gets all her shots I plan to first do short walks with turn-arounds which seems to work well on independent breeds.

      Here is an article on my leash training experiences with Sephy -
      http://shibashake.com/dog/leash-training-your-dog

  29. AntlerAdam says:

    Sounds way more intense than our first couple weeks with our new shiba, Raiden. He slept through the night on night one at 8 weeks and only a couple accidents (he’ll be 11 weeks tomorrow).

    We’re having a hell of a time on the leash though. He is super stubborn…

    Unfortunately, a neighbor gave her dog too much slack last night and he bit Raiden in the leg, leaving him with a small puncture wound. He favored it all night but this morning it was like nothing happened. A quick trip to the vet to get it cleaned up and he’s rockin’ n’ rollin’ again!

    • shibashake says:

      Sounds way more intense than our first couple weeks with our new shiba, Raiden.

      Yeah, it is mainly the potty training that requires constant supervision. Now that we are getting some sunshine, it is a bit easier because she can be in the backyard by herself for short periods of time. Other than that, frozen Kongs are the BEST thing for puppies. They keep her occupied for long periods of time doing something that she loves – eating! :D

      Unfortunately, a neighbor gave her dog too much slack last night and he bit Raiden in the leg

      Wow – it is pretty unusual for an adult dog to cause puncture wounds on a puppy. Usually, adult dogs give puppies a lot of leeway and only correct them vocally or by rolling them onto the ground.

      Glad to hear that Raiden recovered so quickly! Ah, the resilience of youth.

  30. Sounds like a rough few days! Thankfully, we’re one whole month in so Kiba is no longer crying at night (though heaven help you if you’re late letting him out in the morning!)

    Also, only the one dog, so no puppy/adult dog supervision. We are having a few challenges with my toddler revving puppy up so he can’t help himself but nip – we’re punishing the toddler who DOES understand he’s not supposed to run around screaming, not the puppy who can’t understand hyper energy isn’t what he should do, lol. Time outs work for all little ones.

    Potty training a Shiba is easier than a Sibe it sounds like. :-) Though, Kiba HATES the rain – if he knows it’s raining, he won’t go outside, he’ll wait till he’s in, then go in the corner and tell us about it! (Doubtlessly so we’ll clean it up and his house will be pristine again).

    Good luck! Sounds like your little one is a handful!

    • shibashake says:

      Potty training a Shiba is easier than a Sibe it sounds like.

      Yeah, that is definitely the case. Shibas, I think, are pretty obsessive about cleanliness. Sibes on the other hand are pretty copasetic about everything, including pooping and peeing. :D

      Sounds like your little one is a handful!

      Haha, yeah she is small but fierce! She is also a lot more bold and stubborn compared to Shania. Should be an interesting journey.

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