Dog Shock Collar – The Good and The Bad

The shock collar, remote training collar, or electronic dog collar is most commonly used in four areas –

  1. Keep dogs inside our property. Our dog is corrected every time he nears the fence-line. This is also known as an invisible fence or underground fence.
  2. Stop dogs from barking. The collar automatically delivers a correction whenever our dog starts to bark. If he continues to bark, the force, duration, and frequency of the shocks may be automatically increased.
  3. Train dogs and stop problem dog behaviors. Shock collars are most commonly used for off-leash training. However, some dog trainers and pet owners also use it for behavioral issues such as food aggression, and dog aggression.
  4. Teach dogs to stay away from dangerous animals and objects. A common use is in rattlesnake aversion training. A dog is shocked hard, but a very small number of times, when he nears a caged rattlesnake. This teaches him not to approach rattlesnakes in the future.

The use of shock collars on dogs is a very emotional topic. Discussions will often degrade into personal attacks, accusations of dog cruelty, and other types of name calling.

In this article, I will try to stick to the facts, and consider whether it is something I would use on my dogs. Note however, that facts are not always convenient, and facts are not always balanced between the two sides.

If you have already made up your mind about using shock collars and are looking for validation, this article is not for you.

Electronic Collars vs. Shock Collars

Not all electronic collars are used as shock collars. There are three main modes – 1. Beep mode, 2. Vibrate mode, and 3. Shock mode.

All electronic collars have the shock functionality, but the beep or vibrate functions are optional.

1. Beep mode

In this mode, a beep is emitted whenever the collar controller is pressed. This beep can be used as a marker, in the same way that clickers are used in clicker training.

For the beep to be an effective marker, a dog needs prior training for associating the sound with a positive or negative consequence. For example, if the beep always precedes a sought after reward, then our dog may stop and wait, because he knows that something good is coming. Similarly, a dog may freeze or submit when he hears a beep, because he knows that failure to comply, will be followed by a painful shock.

The beep can also cause a startle response, similarly to blowing a whistle. This can be used to get our dog’s attention or to interrupt his current action. However, for this to work, we must only use the interrupt signal on very rare occasions. If applied too frequently, our dog will become accustomed to it, and just ignore it.

2. Vibrate mode

In this mode, the collar vibrates, similar to how our pager or phone vibrates to get our attention. Like the beep mode, this vibration can be used as a marker or as an interrupt.

Both the beep and vibrate modes do not deliver an electric shock to the dog.


3. Shock mode.

In shock mode, the electronic collar will deliver an electric current to the dog through two contact points at the dog’s neck.

This electric current will cause pain and physical discomfort to the dog, otherwise it would not be effective in conditioning him.

The amount of pain delivered to the dog will depend on three key factors –

  • The power/voltage of the electric current,
  • The duration of the current, and
  • The frequency of the current.

The amount of pain that the dog actually feels, will also depend on the physical characteristics of the dog (e.g. size, skin, and fur), as well as the temperament of the dog. Some dogs are more sensitive to pain than others.

Sometimes, words like stimulation are used to describe shock collars. I even saw them described as gentle training collars.

Beware of these sales gimmicks. Accept an electronic collar for what it is. If you choose to use it, make an informed decision that is based on the actual pros and cons of the system, which I will discuss below. Note that the subsequent discussion is solely based on the shock functionality of remote training collars (not on the beep and vibrate modes).

Shock Collar Advantage 1

The electronic collar allows us to control the amount of pain delivered to our dog, and administer that pain from a distance.

One of the great challenges of implementing pain based aversive techniques such as leash jerks, muzzle slaps, and finger pokes, is in controlling the amount of force delivered to the dog.

  • Too much force and our dog may break down, and become extremely stressed or fearful.
  • Too little force and our dog will get habituated to the corrections, and just ignore them.

Master aversive trainers are able to deliver just the right amount of force, so that the dog will not repeat a bad behavior, but at the same time, he will also not become unbalanced and fearful.

Unlike other aversive methods, the shock collar allows us to easily adjust the amount of pain delivered to a dog, and to keep that level of pain consistent in subsequent corrections. We can also administer the pain from a distance.

However, it should also be mentioned that the amount of pain actually ‘felt’ by the dog as well as the resulting response, depends on many different factors, not just the level of shock applied.

Although these devices are presented as a highly controllable method of modifying behaviour, via the controlled administering of pain/discomfort (the collars are designed to allow operator to set the duration and intensity of shock), an individual animal’s experience when a shock is applied will be influenced by numerous factors. In addition to individual temperament, the experience will be affected by the dog’s previous experiences, frequency of application, location of shock, thickness of hair and level of moisture on skin (Lindsay, 2005). Given that many of these factors are not easily determinable by the operator, this makes the device far less precise than suggested.
~~[RSPCA]

Shock Collar Advantage 2

The electronic collar can automatically deliver a shock correction to the dog, even when we are not there.

Another challenge of implementing proper aversive corrections, is using the right timing. We want to correct our dog as soon as he performs an unacceptable behavior, and stop correcting him as soon as he stops that behavior.

Electronic collars can be tied to a particular trigger event, such as barking or proximity to our fence-line. In this way, a shock is automatically and consistently delivered to the dog, as soon as he starts to bark or tries to escape. In fact, the invisible fence or shock anti-bark systems are convenient, because we do not even have to be there to deliver the corrections.

Shock collars such as these may sound tempting and easy to use, but unfortunately, consistent and automatic timing does not necessarily mean correct timing.

Studies show that automatic collars are risky, because tying a shock correction to a single trigger event, such as barking or proximity, is too simplistic and will frequently result in bad timing. This can subsequently lead to aggression and other dog behavioral issues.

There are some anti-bark collars that use sound aversion to stop dog barking, for example the Ultrasonic Anti-bark Collar. However, customer reviews have been poor because the sound stimulus is often insufficient to prevent the barking behavior.


Shock Collar Advantage 3

With an electronic collar, the source of the aversive stimulus is less clear.

When we use other pain-based aversive techniques, it is usually obvious that the pain comes from us. This may teach our dogs to associate people with physical distress, which can also lead to fear. If this happens, we may lose some of our dog’s trust, and jeopardize our bond with him.

For example, when we apply a leash correction, it is apparent that the pain originates from the leash, and sometimes (if not redirected), from us. Therefore, the dog may decide to fight with the leash, or worse, with us.

This is less of a problem with electronic collars because the source of the pain is obscured, and there is no leash to fight with. However, because the pain comes from seemingly nowhere, our dog may mistakenly associate it with something he sees in the environment (e.g. another dog), the environment itself, or to multiple unrelated objects and events. This may cause misplaced stress, fear, and aggression, toward those objects.

Automatic shock collars also have a high risk of over-correcting a dog.

Shock Collar Disadvantage 1

Electronic collars can increase aggression in dogs.

According to Polsky’s study, dogs kept in shock containment systems (i.e. invisible fence or underground fence), can show extreme aggression towards humans, over and beyond their normal behavior.

Polsky’s results show that a big danger with electronic collars, especially automatic e-collars, is that they may cause dogs to make the wrong associations, and learn the wrong things.

Dogs may associate the pain from the shock with the environment or with objects in the environment (including humans , dogs, or cats), rather than with their escaping or barking behaviors. This may lead to anxiety or negative associations with those objects, which can ultimately result in aggression.

Some dogs that have been conditioned in this manner, may not want to set foot in the yard, for worry of pain. They may also start to attack humans and other animals, that wander too close to the fence perimeter.

Some dogs may get habituated to the shocks, and learn that if they can tolerate the pain close to the fence-line, they can escape. Once they escape, they are rewarded with no more shocks. In this way, the dog learns that escaping is a good thing, whereas staying in the backyard is not.

Shock Collar Disadvantage 2

Electronic collars can increase stress in dogs and reduce their quality of life.

Schalke et al. conducted an electronic collar training study on fourteen laboratory-bred Beagles. Shock collar training was conducted over 7 days, for 1.5 hours per day. Then the dogs were released to freely hunt for 5 days, and to hunt on leash for another 5 days. Schalke’s study showed that the dogs who

… were able to clearly associate the electric stimulus with their action, i.e. touching the prey, and consequently were able to predict and control the stressor, did not show considerable or persistent stress indicators.

~~[ Excerpt from ScienceDirect.com ]

However, the two other groups of dogs that were not able to so clearly predict and control the delivery of the shocks, showed elevated stress levels, with the highest levels present in the dogs that were arbitrarily shocked.

Most importantly, the group of dogs that received a shock for not abiding by a recall (Here) command, were also significantly elevated.

Even more distressing, is that the results remained the same when the dogs were reintroduced to the testing area after four weeks. Their stress levels remained high, even though they did not receive any shocks during this reintroduction period.

The results from Schalke’s study indicate that electronic collars are extremely risky to use even for the short term. Stress levels of the dogs were high after just 7 days, and were elevated as soon as they returned to the shock treatment environment. This is consistent with Polsky’s study, which show that dogs may associate the shock and stress they receive, with the environment itself.

This study provides strong evidence that shock collars are inappropriate for most kinds of dog training, as even common recall training will result in elevated stress levels, and a lower quality of life.

Shock Collar Disadvantage 3

Electronic collars can weaken our bond with our dog.

Polsky and Schalke’s studies show that dogs often associate the pain from electronic collars with their environment, as well as with people, animals, and other objects in that environment. Even after shocks are no longer administered, the dogs still attach the environment to something stressful and negative.

Therefore, using a remote training collar on our dog may cause him to associate our home or backyard, with stress and pain. Or worse yet, it may cause him to associate the stress with other dogs, other people, or with us.

Remember that Schalke’s results show this negative attachment forming in a matter of 7 days.

Alternative to Shock Corrections


When I first got my Shiba Inu, I had a lot of problems with him. At the time, I was under the false impression that reward methods would not work on my dominant, stubborn, and aggressive Shiba Inu. Therefore, I was using aversive training and briefly considered the use of electronic collars, because the other aversive-based methods were not working well.

However, after doing a lot of reading, I decided to give reward dog training a chance.

Reward training is not a miracle cure, and it will still take a lot of work, consistency, and patience, to train our dog. However, reward techniques can work on dominant, stubborn, and aggressive dogs. It has worked well for training my Shiba. In fact, he stopped showing aggression toward me and others, after I stopped using pain-based methods.

Common Justifications for Shock Collars

1. Save a dog’s life.

Proponents of electronic collars sometimes argue that they are used to save a dog’s life, by preventing him from running into traffic.

It is important to note that off-leash recall is never 100% reliable, whatever equipment or training methods we may choose to use.

This is why there are leash laws in most neighborhoods. This is also why off-leash parks require dogs to be on-leash when they are in the parking lot area, or in areas that are close to roads and traffic.

I use a no-slip collar and secure leash to walk my dogs in the neighborhood. I also regularly check the collar and leash to ensure that they in good working order. Off-leash exercise can be had in fully enclosed spaces or large parks, where we are far enough away from traffic that a failed recall, will not result in an accident. Do not play Russian Roulette with our dog’s life.

2. Do not cause much pain, just a tingle.

Some people try shock collars on themselves, and report that it only causes a tingle, so it really does not apply much pain to our dog.

However, to closely experience shock collar conditioning from my dog’s perspective, I would have to put the collar on my neck and surrender the controller to a handler. I will not know why, when, or where the shocks will be administered.

As I carry on with my day, I may feel the need for a smoke. I reach for it, and feel a tingle on my neck. It is just a tingle, so I continue.

At this point, the tingle not only persists, but increases in intensity. I am strong willed though, so I keep going. After all, that is exactly why I needed the shock collar in the first place.

The intensity keeps increasing until finally, I drop the bad object. My hand shakes. The experience was unpleasant, and now I want relief more than ever. Unfortunately, I do not even have a patch, all I have is this locked-on collar that I cannot remove. My eyes stray and my hands start to reach again …

Electronic collars are NOT harmless, nor are they just a little tingly. If they were so, they would not work. Their use is illegal for children and non-consenting adults. Here is another case in Utah. Trying the collar on ourselves, and doing a single, short, expected shock, at low intensity, is *not* how the collar will be used on our dogs. It is merely a gimmick to convince us that the collars are innocuous. If they were truly so harmless –

  • Why is their use banned for children and non-consenting adults.
  • Why is there so much scientific data showing how risky they can be.
  • Why are they on the “do not use” list of so many well-respected dog advocate organizations.
  • Why would they “work” on our stubborn dog, when other pain based aversive collars such as prong collars or choke collars have stopped working.

Logic tells us that this is a false claim.

3. Everybody else is biased and dishonest.

Another common argument, is that those who point out the risks of shock collars are biased and dishonest. Personal attacks or ad hominem arguments such as these are not only pointless, but they also discourage rational discourse and the exchange of ideas. More on bias.

In this article, I describe what attracted me to look into electronic collars as a possible training tool for my Shiba Inu, as well as some of the risks that were of concern. Based on the studies and articles that I found, I also include counter-arguments (if present) for each of those points. In general, I found very little scientific evidence to recommend its use, while at the same time, there are many studies that show the risks involved.

After reading the results of Polsky and Schalke, it is difficult for me to come up with cases where the shock collar would be appropriate in dog training. Perhaps the only case would be in animal aversion training, such as teaching our dogs to fear and stay-away from rattlesnakes.

If you know of supporting scientific studies or substantiated data which highlight the good of shock collars, it would certainly contribute much to the discussion, so please share them with us.

However, based on current reliable data, shock collars are not something I would use on my own dogs or generally recommend to others. It is also worth noting that the ASPCA, AVSAB, RSPCA, Kennel Club, and Blue Cross, are all against the use of shock collars for companion dogs.

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Comments

  1. Krista says

    Hi,

    We have a 2 year old Hungarian Vizsla who is very well socialised with dogs and people. He about a year ago (and now more and more) started to run and bark full speed at random people walking through the park or on a walking trail. We thought he’d grow out of it but he’s been doing it more now. He doesn’t do it to everyone. Sometimes loads of people can pass and he’ll pay no attention and then suddenly he will bolt towards them sometimes old people and children. He gets a bout 3 feet from them and stops to either bark some more or have a sniff before he either lets them pet him or return to us as we’re of course calling him. Though he normally calms down when he reaches them I fear that as he gets older and/or if provoked he could do something. We want to teach him to come to us if something makes him anxious or just to come to us no matter what distraction there may be. We have borrowed an E-collar from a friend and are doing research on how to go about using it for our issue.

    Do you have any advice? How should we go about training him as normally he is great at recall and we really have no other problems with his training?

    • shibashake says

      I help my dog be more calm around people and other dogs by doing desensitization exercises. Successful and calm experiences will help my dog to build confidence, trust, and positive associations. Similarly, negative experiences and punishment will undermine that confidence, introduce more anxiety, and worsen his behavior.

      This article from the ASPCA has a good list of recall training techniques, including using a long-line. If I issue a recall command and my dog does not come, I need an effective way to get him to come along, e.g. a long line. Otherwise, he will learn that recall means come when I am ready, come whenever, or come if I feel like it.

      I first need to do recall training in a low stimulus environment, and then I slowly increase the environmental challenge. When there are a lot more distractions, getting my dog to come when called will naturally be a lot more difficult. Therefore, I set my dog up for success by starting small, and then slowly increasing the level of distractions, at a pace that he can handle.

      Don’t call her if she’s sniffing the ground, saying hello to another dog or playing. If you call when she’s distracted and she doesn’t come, you’re teaching her to ignore your call. Instead, call her when she’s highly likely to come so that you can establish a strong habit. And remember to be generous with your rewards!

      Once your dog is reliable at coming when you call while wearing her long line, start to test her when she’s more distracted. If she doesn’t come right away, turn and run a few steps away from her while calling. She’ll either decide to chase you or she’ll be dragged by the long line. Either way, praise her for coming and encourage her to catch up to you. Be genuine with your praise and generous with your rewards when she does.
      ~~[ASPCA]

      If my dog is anxious of certain types of people or dogs, then I do desensitization training in a structured environment to help him build confidence and be more calm. However, I also need to manage his environment, set him up for success, and not expose him to situations where he will fail. The more reactive events there are, the more likely he will repeat that behavior in the future and in a wider variety of contexts.

      Studies show that shock collars increase stress in dogs, and have a high risk of causing the dog to make the wrong associations. Both of these can lead to more behavioral issues down the road, including aggression. The article above has links to such studies and related summaries of such studies.

      Suppose my dog is slightly anxious of certain types of people – maybe people who move differently, children who are more hyper, fearful people, etc. When he sees such people, he may start to vocalize because of uncertainty. If he gets shocked every time this occurs, he may associate the pain from the shocks with those people. This may worsen his uncertainty, cause greater stress, and lead to even more reactive behaviors. Even in the best case scenario, the shock collar will only suppress symptoms in the short term, and will not address the underlying cause of the dog’s behavior.

      With my dog, I always start by identifying the cause/source of his behavior (e.g. is it fear driven, excitement driven, etc.). Once I identify the source, then I would get a good trainer who can help me with desensitization training and recall training in higher distraction environments, or something else, depending on what is most appropriate. I would *not* use a shock collar, especially not for anxiety driven behaviors.
      https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/finding-professional-help
      https://apdt.com/pet-owners/choosing-a-trainer/

  2. Sheryl says

    Our dog 11 years Shihtzu-yorkie mix will constantly sniff and whine at our bedroom door after we go to bed. Which makes it impossible to sleep. He’s there all night. We’ve tried a pet gate in front of the bedroom door so he can’t reach his nose to the bottom of the door but he chews on the gate and pulls in down!
    Any ideas?

    • shibashake says

      Has he always shown this behavior? Is he alone at all during the day? What is his behavior like when alone during the day?

      What you describe sounds like anxiety.

      I let me dog sleep in the bedroom since puppyhood. It helps to make her feel safe, and it helps with bonding. As she matured and gained confidence, she chose to sleep downstairs where she has more freedom. However, I leave the bedroom door open so she can hear us and I can hear her. If she gets anxious because of unusual night noises, then I let her up if she wants. She feels safer, more assured, and calm, when she is with us.

      For separation anxiety, I start training my dog with very short periods of alone time (seconds), and slowly build up from there.
      ASPCA article on separation anxiety and desensitization training.
      More on dog anxiety.

      I would *not* use shock collars or any kind of aversive punishment for anxiety behaviors. Punishment will only introduce more stress into the situation, which may worsen the dog’s anxiety and his related symptoms.

  3. Anonymous says

    We afe currently looking into this for our deaf 2 year old pitt bull. She loves to bark at nothing, including the side of our neighbors house at 2am (she goes nuts over any kind of shadow) and attacks my other pitt (in a non agressive playful way) in an effort to gain our full attention when we get home. Nothing else has been successful. She’s a sweet girl, but such a handful. Any ideas?

  4. Peggy says

    Training with non-aversive methods will work for your problem dogs. If they have been allowed performing undesirable behavior for a while it may take longer but it can work. You can teach dogs not to bolt out of doors and to have rocket re-call. Wanting dogs to roam your property, respect boundary lines and not act like dogs by chasing a killing prey is ludicrous. A shock collar will only work if you are there to push the button and how does that work if they are roaming out of site or when you are not home. Electric fences may or may not restrict their boundaries and certainly will not keep them safe from others. These collars have been known to short circuit when they get wet causing severe injury and sometimes death. Dogs can become aggressive with electric fences and shock collars leading to a potential serious attack. Manage your dogs, build safe fences, exercise them and train, train, train using positive methods. If you cannot do it yourself contact a professional to help. If you cannot provide safe exercise and training for your dog then consider rehoming your dogs.

  5. Glenn says

    I’d really like to post this to a manufacturer’s web site, but maybe someone will pass this on. There needs to be a change to the beep that the collars make when they give the correction. We’ve found that a wide variety of electronic products also make the same beep. Our dog is now terrified of our coffee maker, our iron and our digital watches. Just be warned and please pass this on if you can.

  6. Veronica says

    I am only looking into shock collars because my coegi was recently hit by a truck because he likes to chase/race cars and we live in the country and he is out often or was and when i am not home i live with other people who even if i want to keep him in even if he is in my room Somehow he is let out. It is to where our driveway is just a straight shot so i was thinking of almost a post or pole that has a rage if he gets in it that it will administer a shock. I cannot keeps eyes on him and on who is coming in and out or even on the road, is there even such a thing as a range post?

  7. Shawnee says

    Hello. I have a lab mix and she is very energetic and playful, but she can run faster than me or my husband can ever dream of. We got a shock collar to train boundaries because she needs to run! I am quickly assoiciating the shock with the beep to use the beep as an aversion instead of the shock. We tried recall training and treats for staying within her boundaries but nothing worked because of something of more interest. We tried a longer leash but still she can’t run very much before it tugs her back. If we let her run, she is better behaved in the house because her energy is lower. I honestly think recall and positive reinforcement would have worked if she wasn’t so outgoing to other dogs and our dear neighbor who leaves scraps out for animals(one of the major reasons for boundary training, we don’t want her to get sick). IDK if it was for sure the right thing yet but we feel it was the only option short of tying her up outside with limited space on our 12 acres of land.

  8. Steve says

    This is a current discussion so I have hopes that my post will elicit some constructive advice. My new wife and I have 3 female dogs, she brought 2 Airedales to the marriage and I got my teacup Yorkie, my ex kept the Westie and The Golden. We have been together for 3 years now and purchased a home together and are working on blending our lives. My teacup is perfectly socialized and requires little or no discipline in all situations. The older Airedale at 10 is well socialized and other than being very fragile emotionally is well behaved. The younger Airedale is 7 and is extremely difficult to handle. She is a loving dog and seems eager to please but she has the most challenging behavior of a dog I have ever dealt with. She has assumed the alpha role and is only somewhat submissive to me. She regularly bullies the other dogs and at times causes problems, she will knock down the older terrier and aggressively “taunt in a semi playfull” way. It causes us concern as the older dog is experiencing hip issues and the vet has warned us to be careful with her as she can be seriously injured. We have to be extremely vigilant with the teacup as I have caught the younger terrier overtly using very rough play with her ( flipping her with her nose and pouncing with her front paws at the teacup). She could very easily hurt or cripple the little girl and she seems oblivious to this.
    The most frustrating behavior is the younger Airedales tendency to very sneakily time her opportunities to escape from our home, yard or leash and go on these neighborhood rampages where she stays just outside our reach and taunts us with this run and chase game. We have tried everything from ignoring her when she runs and just monitoring her until we can catch her which has almost gotten her run over a few times to enlisting half the neighborhood to corral her.
    She is now approaching 8 years old and isn’t showing any signs of maturing, I am a patient man and have owned and trained many dogs but am at my wits end here. My wife has arranged to give me one of my greatest wishes, another West Highland Terrier, I was so bonded to my last Westie, it broke my heart when my ex decided to keep him. I am looking forward to another Westie and the training experience but I am so afraid of what will happen with the younger Airedale. I have two months to try to work it out with the Airedale before the pup comes home and I am wondering if I should try shock collar training to try and reign in this terror, we have tried every other kind of training and have had little or no success. I veiw this as my failure not the dogs, I just haven’t fiqured out how to get through to her. Please any constructive advice is appreciated.

    • shibashake says

      With my dogs, I set up clear dog-to-dog play rules, and I supervise them well during play-time to enforce those rules. I make sure that there is no bullying, and I manage their excitement level by throwing in many play-breaks. When they get over-excited, is when they usually start to play rough and when things start to escalate. Therefore, managing their excitement level is a very important part of keeping play-time controlled and successful.
      More on what I do with my dogs during play-time.

      I do not leave my dogs alone together until I am very sure that there will be no issues, and I exercise them well before any alone time. I also set up a very fixed routine for my dogs, a consistent set of house rules, and they work for all of the things that they want.

      What is the younger Airedale’s daily routine like? Has she always shown these behaviors or did they only develop recently? What types of activities does she enjoy?

      where she stays just outside our reach and taunts us with this run and chase game.

      Yeah, I think many dogs do this, not because of dominance but because it initiates a fun and interesting game. With my dogs, I do recall training exercises. In addition, I train them on door manners, so that they learn not to bolt out doors. I also try to set them up for success by providing a fixed routine and structured activities throughout the day (e.g. making them work for all of their food). In this way, they know exactly what to expect, and they have many structured outlets for their energy.

      More on how I deal with dog escapes.
      ASPCA article on recall training.
      More on dominance and bad dog behavior.

  9. Sandi says

    I have 2 dogs on which I use shock collars. A 60 lb Shiba mix and a 60 lb Husky/Malamute mix. It was my last resort. After major discussion with a farmer and his deer rifle as they chased his cows, watching the Shiba retrieve a fawn from the river and proceed to kill it, kill two of my neighbors cats, chasing and many times killing squirrels, birds, moles, gophers I was at wits end. They also chase coyotes all the way back to their den and I can only pray they are not pack attacked. I spent much $$s on training /behavior. The e-collar was the only salvation. I was not abusive, gave only quick bursts to break their focus and shock level only enough to turn them back. All after trying the beep first.

    • Anonymous says

      Did it work for your dogs? I too am at my wits end and would use it with quick corrections. My dogs almost were killed today when they wouldn’t come back and ran into a busy parking lot approaching a major street. Nothing else is working.

    • Anonymous says

      Why are your dogs off leash and running wild? Don’t allow that and you won’t have these issues to begin with.

  10. Tony White says

    I am considering a shock collar for my dog. He is generally a great dog, and very obedient to recall, except when he sees sheep!

    Unfortunately this behavior has already resulted in the death of one sheep, hence he kenneled at night and on a long leash during the day, except for walk times when he is still on the leash but going for a walk with the family.

    I want him to be able to roam the property and not worry about mine or other people’s livestock being a threat, what are your thoughts?

    Regards,

    Tony

    • shibashake says

      Based on Christiansen and Shalke’s studies, animal aversion training (e.g. training a dog to fear and avoid snakes or sheep) is one of the few cases where shock collars do not significantly increase stress levels in dogs, if done right. Here is the relevant excerpt –

      {Dogs who} were able to clearly associate the electric stimulus with their action, i.e. touching the prey, and consequently were able to predict and control the stressor, did not show considerable or persistent stress indicators.

      However, there are also warnings that the training has to be done in exactly the right way. In addition, pain will still be applied.

      Personally, I would consider other types of training first. These two articles have more on retraining prey chasing behavior-
      http://drsophiayin.com/blog/entry/how-do-i-train-my-dog-to-stop-chasing-the-chickens-cat-rat
      http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/theotherendoftheleash/chase-this-not-that

  11. Jennifer Ganus says

    I have always felt positive reinforcement worked best. Say no to unwanted behavior, then promptly show the wanted behavior and reward for it. I prefer the gentle approach. Dogs want to please us and working together creates a great bond, And
    the dog does the wanted behavior to please you. I think with the shock/vvibration collars only deliver negative with no instruction on what to do instead. And less communication with you to learn how to please you.

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