Comments on: Brad Pattison, CET Dog Training, & In The Doghouse

By: shibashake

shibashake — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:46:56 +0000

Thanks for sharing your story with us BeKind!

BTW, I have trained dogs for fifteen years using reward training and I have never had a dog fail to learn obedience that way.

Always great to hear from professional trainers like you. The more we spread this message, the better it will be for both dogs and dog owners.

When I got my Shiba Inu, I thought that aversive techniques was the only possible way to train a stubborn dog.

It was a good thing that a trainer recommended that I read “Bones Would Rain from the Sky”. She also told me she had trained many stubborn and difficult dogs with reward techniques, and that such dogs actually respond much better to reward training.

And she is right!

By: BeKind

BeKind — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:45:14 +0000

This article on Brad Pattison has made me feel better today – thank you.

Now let me explain before everyone thinks I like this jerk. About a week ago I saw him in front of my neighbour’s house ‘training’ a dog for an upcoming show. I watched him lift the poor puppy (maybe four months old?) off the ground by the collar so that it was hanging. I watched him pull the dog off of its feet through leash jerking. And finally, I saw him yell at the owners twice to punch their pet in the face- hard! That poor puppy was cowering in fear from this abuse. I damn near went out and ‘trained’ this jerk!

All week I have been feeling alone – like I am the only one who sees this as abuse and a crime. I am so glad to see that other people feel the same way.

BTW, I have trained dogs for fifteen years using reward training and I have never had a dog fail to learn obedience that way. I say that any ‘training’ that would be a crime if done to another human is cruelty to an animal.

By: shibashake

shibashake — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:10:48 +0000

Thanks for sharing the great links Alex – will definitely include them in the article.

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:13:34 +0000

http://rutube.ru/tracks/1541461.html?v=f5da001315ee259e8c28ca49dff6394e

By: Alex

Alex — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:02:01 +0000

There is a new video comparing the CET title vs Certifications from other places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MpWbSbomI

By: Shadow

Shadow — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:20:55 +0000

I guess they don’t want people knowing the truth which is sad. If your a good trainer I’m sure you would want everyone to see the methods you use. Not only for T.V. but in person or in this case videos been taken from semiars. Myself love showing what I can do with my dogs through positive methods, and how they want to be near me and not fear me. A dog which is in trouble will run from you as mine stand their ground and let me put them on a timeout. Which would you pick a dog who is going to run off on you or a dog who is going to want to be by your side?

By: shibashake

shibashake — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:49:43 +0000

Ok, it must have been gone when I looked because I only watched the positive Kelowna News clips.

These guys are really efficient at censorship of content. Perhaps they should consider changing professions

By: Shadow

Shadow — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:03:14 +0000

They must have taken down the vidoes again.I went to see if they were there, but they are not.

By: Shadow

Shadow — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:55:05 +0000

All i can say is this. Positive training methods for me is to get the dog to trust and respect you as a handler. By not using a positive method you will not be getting the dogs trust nor will you get the respect from your dog. I have a bond with my dogs like no other, and people around here are quit amazed by it. My dog always wants to be near and around me; even if i were to walk away from my dogs and have someone else watch them while i’m in a store a friend may come by and ask if they can give my dogs a treat, and of course i’ll say yes as i know them, but my dogs may know the people too, but yet will not take any kind of treat from them unless i’m there. This is what i mean by having a great bond with your dog, and a dog who’s not going to fear you but want to be with you no matter where you are.

As for the videos all i can say is this. Why would anyone want a dog to listen to you out of fear? Myself i much reither have a dog who isn’t going to fear me, but will respect, and trust me.

By: shibashake

shibashake — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:04:00 +0000

Thanks for the link Shadow. The videos were interesting – always good to watch hard-hitting reporters at work – chasing the untold story and challenging their viewers

Strangely, even these prepared, positive videos did not come across as very positive to me. Maybe it is just me … what did you think of the videos?