<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Do Some Dogs Need a Shock?</title> <atom:link href="http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock</link> <description>Dog Tips, Care &#38; Training</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:38:19 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-89345</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:36:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-89345</guid> <description><![CDATA[One thing that worked really well with my Sibes wrt. digging is to place concrete blocks at the bottom of our fence line. One of my Huskies dug out once while chasing after some earth critter. After we put the concrete blocks in, there were no more escapes.As for bolting out the door, one possibility is to put in a door that can swing shut on its own. Alternatively, we can put in a double door system, but I think the first option is easier.As for recall training (come when called), here is a good list of techniques from the ASPCA- http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-articles/teaching-your-dog-to-come-when-calledShock collars are risky, unreliable, and increases stress in our dogs. Many dogs still escape or do not come back even when the shocks are applied. Personally, I think the unreliable &quot;results&quot; are really not worth the associated risks.  ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that worked really well with my Sibes wrt. digging is to place concrete blocks at the bottom of our fence line. One of my Huskies dug out once while chasing after some earth critter. After we put the concrete blocks in, there were no more escapes.</p><p>As for bolting out the door, one possibility is to put in a door that can swing shut on its own. Alternatively, we can put in a double door system, but I think the first option is easier.</p><p>As for recall training (come when called), here is a good list of techniques from the ASPCA-<br /> <a href="http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-articles/teaching-your-dog-to-come-when-called" rel="nofollow">http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-articles/teaching-your-dog-to-come-when-called</a></p><p>Shock collars are risky, unreliable, and increases stress in our dogs. Many dogs still escape or do not come back even when the shocks are applied. Personally, I think the unreliable &#8220;results&#8221; are really not worth the associated risks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lisa</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-89304</link> <dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:54:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-89304</guid> <description><![CDATA[I have a pure bread Siberian Husky, she is 3 yrs old. She very quiet, loves the kids, such a sweet dog. We have a bug yard that we fenced so she could run and not be chained up, And I take her for daily walks/runs, depending on the day But she digs constantly and runs the town, or sometimes my kids leave the doors open so she gets out.  She refuses to come when called, the only way of capturing her, is to corner her somewhere. I would like to use the shock collar to prevent her from digging and bolting out the door. I would not use the automatic one though, just a remote. I am using it as a last resort, and hoping it will help, because we have had people in the community threaten to shoot her, and shes such a good dog and part of our family. But she needs to learn not to run away.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a pure bread Siberian Husky, she is 3 yrs old. She very quiet, loves the kids, such a sweet dog. We have a bug yard that we fenced so she could run and not be chained up, And I take her for daily walks/runs, depending on the day But she digs constantly and runs the town, or sometimes my kids leave the doors open so she gets out.  She refuses to come when called, the only way of capturing her, is to corner her somewhere. I would like to use the shock collar to prevent her from digging and bolting out the door. I would not use the automatic one though, just a remote. I am using it as a last resort, and hoping it will help, because we have had people in the community threaten to shoot her, and shes such a good dog and part of our family. But she needs to learn not to run away.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-88839</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 22:39:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-88839</guid> <description><![CDATA[For something like the shock collar, I rely most on the findings of scientific studies. There have been many studies conducted on shock collars, and they show the following-1. Shock collars increase stress levels in dogs in most instances. 2. The only case where shock collars do not increase stress is in very simple touch-aversion type training where there is a very direct and clear relationship between the behavior and pain stimulus. However, even in this case, very accurate timing and use is required. 3. Shock collars are very risky. A dog may wrongly associate the pain stimulus with the surrounding objects, people, or environment, rather than to his own behavior. This could result in aggression towards people and even more behavioral issues down the road.Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.4pawsu.com/IAABC_Ecollar.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an article&lt;/a&gt; which summarizes many of the scientific studies that have been conducted on shock collars.Finally, off-leash recall is *never* 100% reliable no matter what equipment or technique we choose to use. Shock collars are not 100% reliable - not even close. Stories abound of dogs escaping from yards with an invisible fence.&lt;strong&gt;Given the increase in stress, behavioral risks, and unreliability of shock collars, it is *not* something that I would use on any of my dogs, nor would I recommend its use to anyone else.&lt;/strong&gt; As you have pointed out, good exercise can be had on-leash. I walk my dogs on-leash (with a very secure no-slip collar and secure leash), and they get off-leash exercise in fully enclosed spaces. I also do &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-articles/teaching-your-dog-to-come-when-called&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recall training&lt;/a&gt; with my dogs.&lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/are-off-leash-dogs-happier-than-on-leash-dogs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are off-leash dogs happier than on-leash dogs?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For something like the shock collar, I rely most on the findings of scientific studies. There have been many studies conducted on shock collars, and they show the following-</p><p>1. Shock collars increase stress levels in dogs in most instances.<br /> 2. The only case where shock collars do not increase stress is in very simple touch-aversion type training where there is a very direct and clear relationship between the behavior and pain stimulus. However, even in this case, very accurate timing and use is required.<br /> 3. Shock collars are very risky. A dog may wrongly associate the pain stimulus with the surrounding objects, people, or environment, rather than to his own behavior. This could result in aggression towards people and even more behavioral issues down the road.</p><p>Here is <a href="http://www.4pawsu.com/IAABC_Ecollar.pdf" rel="nofollow">an article</a> which summarizes many of the scientific studies that have been conducted on shock collars.</p><p>Finally, off-leash recall is *never* 100% reliable no matter what equipment or technique we choose to use. Shock collars are not 100% reliable &#8211; not even close. Stories abound of dogs escaping from yards with an invisible fence.</p><p><strong>Given the increase in stress, behavioral risks, and unreliability of shock collars, it is *not* something that I would use on any of my dogs, nor would I recommend its use to anyone else.</strong> As you have pointed out, good exercise can be had on-leash. I walk my dogs on-leash (with a very secure no-slip collar and secure leash), and they get off-leash exercise in fully enclosed spaces. I also do <a href="http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/dog-articles/teaching-your-dog-to-come-when-called" rel="nofollow">recall training</a> with my dogs.</p><p><a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/are-off-leash-dogs-happier-than-on-leash-dogs" rel="nofollow">Are off-leash dogs happier than on-leash dogs?</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fonz</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-88738</link> <dc:creator>Fonz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:35:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-88738</guid> <description><![CDATA[I have a 7 year old, male, Siberian husky/border collie mix name wiley.  We have been together since he was about 4 months old. We have done a lot of obedience classes together and I have also been given training advice from those who train those amazing dogs in our United States Marine Corps. Wiley and I both love to run and he always gets very excited when I start putting my running shoes on.  Together, we clock in an average of 5 miles per day.  In this case we are a perfect match.   Therefore, I am sure he gets plenty of exercise. He is friendly around people, kids and animals, never damages anything in my house even when I need to stay late at work, and he is smart.  As long as we are in a confined area, he listens and instantly reacts to anything I say or ask.  I move around a lot and travel a lot.  In both cases he is always with me.  He even travels on planes and stays in hotel rooms while I work.   Every house I lived in he adjusted quickly, probably because we run a lot? Wiley is the &quot;Perfect dog&quot;. Well almost....   He is a hit or miss off a leash.   There are times while jogging in Central Park, I took the leash off and he stayed by my side the entire time.   Lately, I have been hesitant because he does take off running and I chase him for about 30min.  He doesn&#039;t seem to listen when I call him.  Realistically,  he never really has when we are at the dog park, beach, or when he finds a way out of the house.  Now I moved to a new house where I don&#039;t have a fence and worried I may end up losing him.   I have considered getting a sport shock collar with a GPS.  The GPS to track him and the shock collar to stop him before he gets hit by a car. I have read mixed reviews on e-collars, leaving me very confused.  Should I get one? Unless someone can suggest a better option then I think this may be my option?  I am all ears. Ultimately, I want what is best for both of us.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 7 year old, male, Siberian husky/border collie mix name wiley.  We have been together since he was about 4 months old.<br /> We have done a lot of obedience classes together and I have also been given training advice from those who train those amazing dogs in our United States Marine Corps.<br /> Wiley and I both love to run and he always gets very excited when I start putting my running shoes on.  Together, we clock in an average of 5 miles per day.  In this case we are a perfect match.   Therefore, I am sure he gets plenty of exercise.<br /> He is friendly around people, kids and animals, never damages anything in my house even when I need to stay late at work, and he is smart.  As long as we are in a confined area, he listens and instantly reacts to anything I say or ask.  I move around a lot and travel a lot.  In both cases he is always with me.  He even travels on planes and stays in hotel rooms while I work.   Every house I lived in he adjusted quickly, probably because we run a lot?</p><p>Wiley is the &#8220;Perfect dog&#8221;. Well almost&#8230;.   He is a hit or miss off a leash.   There are times while jogging in Central Park, I took the leash off and he stayed by my side the entire time.   Lately, I have been hesitant because he does take off running and I chase him for about 30min.  He doesn&#8217;t seem to listen when I call him.  Realistically,  he never really has when we are at the dog park, beach, or when he finds a way out of the house.  Now I moved to a new house where I don&#8217;t have a fence and worried I may end up losing him.   I have considered getting a sport shock collar with a GPS.  The GPS to track him and the shock collar to stop him before he gets hit by a car.<br /> I have read mixed reviews on e-collars, leaving me very confused.  Should I get one?<br /> Unless someone can suggest a better option then I think this may be my option?  I am all ears.<br /> Ultimately, I want what is best for both of us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-7479</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:38:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-7479</guid> <description><![CDATA[http://shibashake.com/dog/are-off-leash-dogs-happier-than-on-leash-dogs]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/are-off-leash-dogs-happier-than-on-leash-dogs" rel="nofollow">http://shibashake.com/dog/are-off-leash-dogs-happier-than-on-leash-dogs</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: justin</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-7430</link> <dc:creator>justin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:03:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-7430</guid> <description><![CDATA[I own a Husky/Grayhound mix and he is fast and loves to run!!! I am a strong believer of using a shock collar because it keeps him from running away or getting hit by a car and I don&#039;t want to stifle his urge to run around. As a result of using the collar, he listens to me A LOT better. I don&#039;t have to use it that much at all unless he runs toward someone walking by. (He&#039;s harmless and a big baby). I guess you just have to try it and if it makes your dog completley miserable, son&#039;t use it.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a Husky/Grayhound mix and he is fast and loves to run!!! I am a strong believer of using a shock collar because it keeps him from running away or getting hit by a car and I don&#8217;t want to stifle his urge to run around. As a result of using the collar, he listens to me A LOT better. I don&#8217;t have to use it that much at all unless he runs toward someone walking by. (He&#8217;s harmless and a big baby). I guess you just have to try it and if it makes your dog completley miserable, son&#8217;t use it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-5100</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:43:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-5100</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Huskies have such a desire to run, stopping this behaviour through shock or pain seems like it would cause more mental problems than anything else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Couldn&#039;t agree with you more.I learned the hard way that independent and stubborn breeds do not respond well to pain techniques. They will just fight back more and become stressed. It is certainly not what I want for my dogs.Btw. you have a very fun blog. Great lounge room pictures. Looks like a professional team went in there looking for some super secret materials. Would be great in a spy movie. ;)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Huskies have such a desire to run, stopping this behaviour through shock or pain seems like it would cause more mental problems than anything else.</p></blockquote><p>Couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.</p><p>I learned the hard way that independent and stubborn breeds do not respond well to pain techniques. They will just fight back more and become stressed. It is certainly not what I want for my dogs.</p><p>Btw. you have a very fun blog. Great lounge room pictures. Looks like a professional team went in there looking for some super secret materials. Would be great in a spy movie. <img src='http://d2yedvk0boln24.cloudfront.net/dog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Walker</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-5087</link> <dc:creator>David Walker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:07:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-5087</guid> <description><![CDATA[I had a comment on my blog just yesterday asking if there was any way to stop the Husky desire to run. She had discovered that when her Husky/Retriever mix started running off leash on a beach it would block everything else out and just run and run.I know some people advocate using shock collars for this, but I just don&#039;t believe it could work. Huskies have such a desire to run, stopping this behaviour through shock or pain seems like it would cause more mental problems than anything else.I&#039;ve also heard stories and seen videos of Huskies completely ignoring the shock. There&#039;s the movie on youtube of the Husky that had an invisible fenceline around it&#039;s yard, it ran straight through it, and ended up in a supermarket miles away stealing dog treats.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a comment on my blog just yesterday asking if there was any way to stop the Husky desire to run. She had discovered that when her Husky/Retriever mix started running off leash on a beach it would block everything else out and just run and run.</p><p>I know some people advocate using shock collars for this, but I just don&#8217;t believe it could work. Huskies have such a desire to run, stopping this behaviour through shock or pain seems like it would cause more mental problems than anything else.</p><p>I&#8217;ve also heard stories and seen videos of Huskies completely ignoring the shock. There&#8217;s the movie on youtube of the Husky that had an invisible fenceline around it&#8217;s yard, it ran straight through it, and ended up in a supermarket miles away stealing dog treats.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Winton</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-4668</link> <dc:creator>Winton</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-4668</guid> <description><![CDATA[I would never use a shock collar on Timber it is simply bad and inhumane it is the last resort ever method on a dog no matter what breed or size. Dogs are meant to be trained and taught humanely dogs should be treated as humans as shock collars could hurt dogs too. Dogs should be trained domesticated and done with as humans who didn&#039;t have shock collars.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never use a shock collar on Timber it is simply bad and inhumane it is the last resort ever method on a dog no matter what breed or size. Dogs are meant to be trained and taught humanely dogs should be treated as humans as shock collars could hurt dogs too. Dogs should be trained domesticated and done with as humans who didn&#8217;t have shock collars.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kim L.</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/do-some-dogs-need-a-shock/comment-page-1#comment-4655</link> <dc:creator>Kim L.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:30:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=4382#comment-4655</guid> <description><![CDATA[I would never use electric shock as training or discipline on any animal.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never use electric shock as training or discipline on any animal.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>