<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Controlling a Dog&#8217;s Behavior &#8211; Is Total Control Necessary?</title> <atom:link href="http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary</link> <description>Dog Tips, Care &#38; Training</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:01:58 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: nbd</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-86694</link> <dc:creator>nbd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:16:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-86694</guid> <description><![CDATA[My way is: dog has to listen to me 100%, but I don&#039;t want too much from him and most of it is ritual behavior.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My way is: dog has to listen to me 100%, but I don&#8217;t want too much from him and most of it is ritual behavior.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Olav</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-86603</link> <dc:creator>Olav</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2013 11:56:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-86603</guid> <description><![CDATA[I wanted to compliment you for your outstanding article. I use multiple methods (aversive, resource-based, reward, etc) depending on the situation (and the dog&#039;s stubbornness) . Perhaps your total control vs no control-argument deserves merits, but the way I see it, dog training is analogous to the German autobahns. In dangerous curves you ask for complete and strict obedience, but besides that you are free to drive however fast or slow you want.I teach a dog to obey a command at any time and under any distraction. This is his key to freedom. If I, or any other owner, can trust his dog to obey &quot;come&quot;, &quot;stay,&quot; and &quot;down&quot; commands at any given time and distraction, I can provide him with enormous freedom to smell, play, and do whatever he wishes the rest of the time.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to compliment you for your outstanding article. I use multiple methods (aversive, resource-based, reward, etc) depending on the situation (and the dog&#8217;s stubbornness) . Perhaps your total control vs no control-argument deserves merits, but the way I see it, dog training is analogous to the German autobahns. In dangerous curves you ask for complete and strict obedience, but besides that you are free to drive however fast or slow you want.</p><p>I teach a dog to obey a command at any time and under any distraction. This is his key to freedom. If I, or any other owner, can trust his dog to obey &#8220;come&#8221;, &#8220;stay,&#8221; and &#8220;down&#8221; commands at any given time and distraction, I can provide him with enormous freedom to smell, play, and do whatever he wishes the rest of the time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-70573</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:28:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-70573</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Re: Puppy Biting&lt;/strong&gt;Yeah puppies are usually very mouthy because they are very curious, very energetic, and want to interact and play with everyone and everything using their mouth. Some things that help my dogs with biting during puppyhood -&lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/bite-inhibition&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1. Bite inhibition training.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/best-dog-toys#kong&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2. Frozen Kongs.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/how-i-trained-my-husky-puppy#bite-training&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3. Redirection - teach them what to do instead of biting.&lt;/a&gt;Here are a few more things that I do to &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/puppy-biting-tips-solutions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;control puppy biting&lt;/a&gt;.Physically based methods, such as neck grabbing, finger jabs, alpha rolls and more, were not helpful with Shiba Sephy. In the longer term, such methods encouraged even more bad behaviors, caused him to lose trust in me, and made him very sensitive to handling and grooming. Some of these &quot;techniques&quot; may also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/if-youre-aggressive-your-dog-will-be-too-says-veterinary-study-university-pennsylvania&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;encourage dog aggression&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;strong&gt;Re: Crating&lt;/strong&gt;With Sephy, his crate location matters a lot.Sephy is fine sleeping in his crate as long as it is in the bedroom with his people. In this way, he can smell us, see us, and knows we are very close by. When he was a puppy, we put-up a baby gate in the kitchen and put Sephy in there during his day-nap/rest time. I am usually in the kitchen with him, or right outside in the living room so that he also knows I am close by and can see me.In the beginning, I also slowly &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.hubpages.com/_srec/hub/Dog-Anxiety-Fearful-Dog#mod_15989164&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;desensitized Sephy to his crate&lt;/a&gt; so that he views it as a positive and safe area where he eats and goes to sleep.Here are some of the things that &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/puppy-obedience-training&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;helped with Sephy during puppyhood&lt;/a&gt;. Here are some things that I learned while &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/shiba-inu-training-secrets&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;training Shiba Sephy&lt;/a&gt;. I set up a very consistent routine for Sephy, and a very fixed set of rules. I also use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://shibashake.com/dog/nothing-in-life-is-free-dog-training&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nothing in Life is Free program&lt;/a&gt; with all of my dogs.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Re: Puppy Biting</strong></p><p>Yeah puppies are usually very mouthy because they are very curious, very energetic, and want to interact and play with everyone and everything using their mouth. Some things that help my dogs with biting during puppyhood -</p><p><a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/bite-inhibition" rel="nofollow">1. Bite inhibition training.</a><br /> <a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/best-dog-toys#kong" rel="nofollow">2. Frozen Kongs.</a><br /> <a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/how-i-trained-my-husky-puppy#bite-training" rel="nofollow">3. Redirection &#8211; teach them what to do instead of biting.</a></p><p>Here are a few more things that I do to <a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/puppy-biting-tips-solutions" rel="nofollow">control puppy biting</a>.</p><p>Physically based methods, such as neck grabbing, finger jabs, alpha rolls and more, were not helpful with Shiba Sephy. In the longer term, such methods encouraged even more bad behaviors, caused him to lose trust in me, and made him very sensitive to handling and grooming. Some of these &#8220;techniques&#8221; may also <a href="http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/if-youre-aggressive-your-dog-will-be-too-says-veterinary-study-university-pennsylvania" rel="nofollow">encourage dog aggression</a>.</p><p><strong>Re: Crating</strong></p><p>With Sephy, his crate location matters a lot.</p><p>Sephy is fine sleeping in his crate as long as it is in the bedroom with his people. In this way, he can smell us, see us, and knows we are very close by. When he was a puppy, we put-up a baby gate in the kitchen and put Sephy in there during his day-nap/rest time. I am usually in the kitchen with him, or right outside in the living room so that he also knows I am close by and can see me.</p><p>In the beginning, I also slowly <a href="http://shibashake.hubpages.com/_srec/hub/Dog-Anxiety-Fearful-Dog#mod_15989164" rel="nofollow">desensitized Sephy to his crate</a> so that he views it as a positive and safe area where he eats and goes to sleep.</p><p>Here are some of the things that <a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/puppy-obedience-training" rel="nofollow">helped with Sephy during puppyhood</a>.<br /> Here are some things that I learned while <a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/shiba-inu-training-secrets" rel="nofollow">training Shiba Sephy</a>.<br /> I set up a very consistent routine for Sephy, and a very fixed set of rules. I also use the <a href="http://shibashake.com/dog/nothing-in-life-is-free-dog-training" rel="nofollow">Nothing in Life is Free program</a> with all of my dogs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Livia</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-70495</link> <dc:creator>Livia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:10:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-70495</guid> <description><![CDATA[We got our Shiba Inu puppy 8 days ago, he was 10 weeks old. Sweet, wild, curious, biting...etc. HE tends to bite...I put my hands behind me with NO words. He is learning that, but still sometimes...when in wild mood...bites that my hands bleed a little. I tend to scream ouch when it hurts too much, but sometimes he keeps bitting. I am not sure what to do, my reaction is to grab his skin behind head like his mother would do, then he stops. The breeder told me to do this, but i am not sure about it. Need advice in this matter. Also, when we put him in crate for night, last 3 evening he throws screaming and raging, he wants out. I let him do this about 10 sec, then take him out to pee. then hug him and try to calm him down by rocking, petting and aft talk. he calms down, but when put on crate, again, he protests. I do not think he is ready to be free in night yet. He still has accidents, bites everything, is mischievous, but so adorable! I need to know why to do that he does not scream bloody murder when put to his crate to sleep......he is good on leash, he is almost potty trained, understands when i tell him go poo, go pee, out, home etc. But still has peeing accidents there and there. It is also very cold, snow and rain outside, nasty weather. Spring is not close yet. Wants the food we eat, i had to put him in his cage ( not crate for sleeping) he is very stubborn, it is our first dog, and I do not want to make mistakes in training him. Any advice? thank you L.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got our Shiba Inu puppy 8 days ago, he was 10 weeks old. Sweet, wild, curious, biting&#8230;etc. HE tends to bite&#8230;I put my hands behind me with NO words. He is learning that, but still sometimes&#8230;when in wild mood&#8230;bites that my hands bleed a little. I tend to scream ouch when it hurts too much, but sometimes he keeps bitting. I am not sure what to do, my reaction is to grab his skin behind head like his mother would do, then he stops. The breeder told me to do this, but i am not sure about it. Need advice in this matter.<br /> Also, when we put him in crate for night, last 3 evening he throws screaming and raging, he wants out. I let him do this about 10 sec, then take him out to pee. then hug him and try to calm him down by rocking, petting and aft talk. he calms down, but when put on crate, again, he protests. I do not think he is ready to be free in night yet. He still has accidents, bites everything, is mischievous, but so adorable!<br /> I need to know why to do that he does not scream bloody murder when put to his crate to sleep&#8230;&#8230;he is good on leash, he is almost potty trained, understands when i tell him go poo, go pee, out, home etc. But still has peeing accidents there and there. It is also very cold, snow and rain outside, nasty weather. Spring is not close yet.<br /> Wants the food we eat, i had to put him in his cage ( not crate for sleeping) he is very stubborn, it is our first dog, and I do not want to make mistakes in training him.<br /> Any advice?<br /> thank you<br /> L.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: W.R.Printz</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-54486</link> <dc:creator>W.R.Printz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:28:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-54486</guid> <description><![CDATA[Well said article. I agree with you 100%. Safe, yes...but no robot dog for me please. I love my little evil genius Shiba, sweet is best with spicy added in.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said article. I agree with you 100%. Safe, yes&#8230;but no robot dog for me please. I love my little evil genius Shiba, sweet is best with spicy added in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-20727</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:31:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-20727</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And I would suspect that the dogs that you mentioned in the beginning working in unison were not robots either. &lt;/blockquote&gt;I wish that were true, but sadly, the training philosophy stated at the site suggested otherwise.In terms of commands and options, I think that options are a very good thing. I try to set my dogs up for success, and provide them with as many options as I can, so that they can pick which ones suit them most. I try out a variety of reward motivators, and use the ones that are most effective for a given context. I believe that a big part of living well with dogs, involves finding the right motivators at the right time.I also believe that dogs are intelligent beings with needs and goals of their own. As such, they always decide for themselves whether to follow a command or not. &lt;strong&gt;Therefore, commands are *always* an option.&lt;/strong&gt; We can certainly try to motivate our dog to follow certain commands with a reward or aversive stimulus, but ultimately, our dog decides how to act.This is why with a real dog, commands are never 100% reliable.With my own dogs, my main goal is to help them fulfill their needs and goals, while looking out for their long-term health and safety. To me, that is what leadership means - helping pack members achieve success.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And I would suspect that the dogs that you mentioned in the beginning working in unison were not robots either.</p></blockquote><p>I wish that were true, but sadly, the training philosophy stated at the site suggested otherwise.</p><p>In terms of commands and options, I think that options are a very good thing. I try to set my dogs up for success, and provide them with as many options as I can, so that they can pick which ones suit them most. I try out a variety of reward motivators, and use the ones that are most effective for a given context. I believe that a big part of living well with dogs, involves finding the right motivators at the right time.</p><p>I also believe that dogs are intelligent beings with needs and goals of their own. As such, they always decide for themselves whether to follow a command or not. <strong>Therefore, commands are *always* an option.</strong> We can certainly try to motivate our dog to follow certain commands with a reward or aversive stimulus, but ultimately, our dog decides how to act.</p><p>This is why with a real dog, commands are never 100% reliable.</p><p>With my own dogs, my main goal is to help them fulfill their needs and goals, while looking out for their long-term health and safety. To me, that is what leadership means &#8211; helping pack members achieve success.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lisa</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-20689</link> <dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-20689</guid> <description><![CDATA[Very valid points.  No, we don&#039;t want a robot dog.  And I would suspect that the dogs that you mentioned in the beginning working in unison were not robots either.  Most of those types of demonstrations are drills in a controlled enviornment.  I feel the same way about competitive obedience.  The dogs and handlers go through a set or routine.  Once they leave the &quot;ring&quot; they are back to their usual selves. (These are often times out of control dogs when not in the ring!  :)  ) Dogs do need rules.  They need structure.  They need leadership and they do need to undertand that commands are not an option (for their own safety that is).  But they also need to be able to express themselves as dogs and enjoy &quot;doggy&quot; things. Thanks for the thought provoking post!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very valid points.  No, we don&#8217;t want a robot dog.  And I would suspect that the dogs that you mentioned in the beginning working in unison were not robots either.  Most of those types of demonstrations are drills in a controlled enviornment.  I feel the same way about competitive obedience.  The dogs and handlers go through a set or routine.  Once they leave the &#8220;ring&#8221; they are back to their usual selves. (These are often times out of control dogs when not in the ring! <img src='http://d2yedvk0boln24.cloudfront.net/dog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br /> Dogs do need rules.  They need structure.  They need leadership and they do need to undertand that commands are not an option (for their own safety that is).  But they also need to be able to express themselves as dogs and enjoy &#8220;doggy&#8221; things. Thanks for the thought provoking post!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shibashake</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-19637</link> <dc:creator>shibashake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-19637</guid> <description><![CDATA[Hello Suzanne, Congratulations on your new Shiba pup! His puppy pictures are absolutely adorable.&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think our shiba boy will be winning any obedience awards but he’s a happy and healthy pup and that’s all that matters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I agree! Thanks for sharing your Shiba experiences with us.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Suzanne,<br /> Congratulations on your new Shiba pup! His puppy pictures are absolutely adorable.</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think our shiba boy will be winning any obedience awards but he’s a happy and healthy pup and that’s all that matters.</p></blockquote><p>I agree! Thanks for sharing your Shiba experiences with us.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Suzanne</title><link>http://shibashake.com/dog/controlling-a-dogs-behavior-is-total-control-necessary/comment-page-1#comment-19575</link> <dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:35:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://shibashake.com/dog/?p=8190#comment-19575</guid> <description><![CDATA[I have a 6month old shiba and he sure is a character with loads of quirk and spunk. There&#039;s no way we&#039;ll ever be in total control of him, nor would we want to - his antics are part of what make him so lovable. Sure he&#039;s sometimes a brat and sometimes I wish he came with an off switch but if we&#039;d wanted a stepford dog we wouldn&#039;t have got a shiba in the first place. We take control when we need to, and somehow he seems sensitive enough to know that certain situations require the humans being in control - other times he&#039;s his own pooch and can do as he pleases. Boundaries and limitations are always in place though and we always take the NILIF approach. I don&#039;t think our shiba boy will be winning any obedience awards but he&#039;s a happy and healthy pup and that&#039;s all that matters.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 6month old shiba and he sure is a character with loads of quirk and spunk. There&#8217;s no way we&#8217;ll ever be in total control of him, nor would we want to &#8211; his antics are part of what make him so lovable. Sure he&#8217;s sometimes a brat and sometimes I wish he came with an off switch but if we&#8217;d wanted a stepford dog we wouldn&#8217;t have got a shiba in the first place. We take control when we need to, and somehow he seems sensitive enough to know that certain situations require the humans being in control &#8211; other times he&#8217;s his own pooch and can do as he pleases. Boundaries and limitations are always in place though and we always take the NILIF approach. I don&#8217;t think our shiba boy will be winning any obedience awards but he&#8217;s a happy and healthy pup and that&#8217;s all that matters.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>