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    Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan: Cesar's Toughest Cases from Amazon.com

    Cesar Millan is the host of the popular show The Dog Whisperer on the National Geographic Channel. Cesar Millan is a charismatic and very entertaining host, and he has made The Dog Whisperer into a big favorite amongst many dog owners.

    As a result, he has many fans that implement his techniques on their house pets.

    There are some who feel that The Dog Whisperer’s dog training techniques are overly harsh and inappropriate for novice trainers (most pet owners).

    In this article, I examine some of the most popular discussions from The Dog Whisperer’s proponents and opponents.

    1. Are Cesar Millan’s techniques humane?


    Cesar Millan's techniques are humane because that is what wolves or dogs do to each other.

    Cesar Millan's techniques are humane because that is what wolves or dogs do to each other.

    Cesar Millan’s techniques are humane because that is what wolves or dogs do to each other.

    There is some disagreement as to whether wolves or wild dogs alpha roll each other. From watching my dogs, it seems that they do.

    Sometimes my Shiba Inu will correct my Siberian Husky when she bites him a bit too hard. He squeals, and then goes after her, tumbles her onto her side, and holds her neck. This happens quickly and efficiently, and then they start playing again. Sometimes, my Shiba Inu will tumble my Siberian Husky multiple times in a row, at which point I will step in and separate them for a while.

    Whether wolves or dogs do alpha rolls or not, is a moot point.

    The fact is we are not wolves, or dogs; we do not have the same teeth, paws, speed, or strength that they do. Whatever alpha roll that we do will be very different from the alpha rolls that they do to each other.

    In addition, just because it is done by wolves or dogs in the wild does not mean that it is acceptable behavior for a dog living in a house, and it also does not make it humane.

    In the wild my Shiba Inu would probably hunt down and kill all of the cats and squirrels that he sees. That does not mean that I will let him do that to the neighborhood cats, and that also does not mean that cat killing is particularly humane.


    Siberian Husky puppy Shania doing an alpha roll? - Nah, just playing.

    Siberian Husky puppy Shania doing an alpha roll? - Nah, just playing.

    Cesar Millan’s techniques are NOT humane because he uses aversive methods such as alpha rolls and leash jerks.


    Whether something is humane or not, is often subjective and dependent on the cultural and social values of the time. Such criticisms (which are themselves, aversive techniques) are never very effective at convincing people to your point of view.

    In fact, quite the opposite.

    It is not very productive to scold people who are just trying to do what they think is best for their dog. It is more productive to describe the good and the bad of different dog obedience training methods, and let people decide which is most appropriate for themselves.

    Personally, I find that aversive dog training is difficult to implement correctly. Under the hands of a real expert it may work well, but in the hands of a novice, it is fraught with many risks and difficulties.

    Ultimately, it was just a lot easier, effective, and satisfying to only use reward dog training on my dogs.

    2. Is Cesar Millan’s program just entertainment or actually good for dogs?

    Cesar Millan’s program is good for dogs.

    Cesar Millan communicates some good information to a large audience including how to be pack leader, how to maintain calm and assertive energy, and how to fulfill a dog’s needs.

    He is also a good ambassador for certain breeds like the Rottweiler and the Pit Bull which have traditionally gotten a bad dog reputation because of the irresponsibility of their human owners.


    Is Cesar Millan's program just entertainment or actually good for dogs?

    Is Cesar Millan's program just entertainment or actually good for dogs?

    Cesar Millan’s program is just for entertainment.


    While there is useful information that can be gleaned from The Dog Whisperer program, there is also misinformation that can result in physical and emotional harm to both trainer and dog.

    What has worked best for me is to do my own research and get all the information possible through the web, the neighborhood SPCA, and local training centers. I still watch The Dog Whisperer, It’s Me or the Dog, and other dog training shows on television, but mostly because they are entertaining. It also helps to see that other owners are having similar problems with their dogs as I am having with mine.

    Sometimes I will adopt an interesting technique from the shows, but only after doing my own research and discussing it with a professional trainer that I trust.

    It can be dangerous and detrimental to your dog, to follow anything you see on these television shows, without first doing thorough research of your own.

    Cesar Millan is so charismatic and popular, that unfortunately, many follow his techniques without first exploring alternative methods and without fully understanding all the risks involved. Some dog breeders, vet technicians, and dog trainers use and teach others to use alpha rolls for a wide variety of situations, and even on puppies!

    This is very unfortunate, as such extreme techniques cause a great amount of stress, especially on young dogs. They may hurt a puppy’s social and emotional development, and bring about behavioral problems down the road.

    Cesar Millan has an amazing, natural sense for dogs, and is able to execute the proper techniques, with perfect timing, at the proper force, and for the right reasons.

    However, this is not true of most people.

    Therefore, Cesar Millan has a great responsibility to all of his viewers, to make clear the risks involved from using his techniques (especially the leash jerk and the alpha roll). Cesar Millan should be extremely explicit on when to and when not to apply his methods.


    It can be dangerous and detrimental to your dog, to follow techniques that you see on Cesar Millan's show, without first doing thorough research of your own.

    It can be dangerous and detrimental to your dog, to follow techniques that you see on Cesar Millan's show, without first doing thorough research of your own.

    3. Should dogs be walked the Cesar Millan way?

    Dogs should always be walked the Cesar Millan way, i.e. at a heel position.

    Cesar Millan recommends that dogs be walked in a heel position at all times. According to Cesar Millan, this will help establish and maintain leadership during walks.

    There should be some breaks during these walks but the breaks are always at the discretion of the human.

    Many trainers, even reward obedience trainers, also believe in having this level of control. With greater structure during walks, there is less danger of aggression in the presence of other dogs, cats, or squirrels; there is less danger of eating something poisonous or harmful; and there is less pulling.


    Cesar Millan dog walking - There should be some breaks during these walks but the breaks are always at the discretion of the human.

    Cesar Millan dog walking - There should be some breaks during these walks but the breaks are always at the discretion of the human.


    Dogs should usually be walked on a loose-leash.


    Shiba Inu Sephy walking on a loose leash.

    Shiba Inu Sephy walking on a loose leash.


    Shiba Inu Sephy having fun in the lake while on a loose leash.

    Shiba Inu Sephy having fun in the lake while on a loose leash.


    Shiba Inu Sephy hunting for lizards while on a loose leash.

    Shiba Inu Sephy hunting for lizards while on a loose leash.

    Dogs may need more structure during walks when they are young. However, I am a great believer of loose-leash walking.

    I train my Shiba Inu to walk on a loose leash most of the time, and only shorten the leash when I need to, for example, when there are dogs or cats nearby. I do “the walk” purely for my dog’s enjoyment, and since I do not know where the most interesting smells are, I let him roam and smell where he likes best.

    My Shiba Inu can be aggressive to other dogs, so when there are dogs or cats about, I shorten the leash and quickly walk him away. My Shiba is happy with loose leash walking and he gets to smell, hunt lizards, and explore the places that are most interesting to him.

    When my Shiba Inu was younger, I was a bit more strict with leash training, and placed him in a heel position more frequently.

    However, he enjoys his walks a lot more now, and does not behave any worse than when I exerted greater control.

    Which walk technique works best depends on your temperament, your dog’s temperament, the environment, and how much time you have to devote to the walk. You can cover a lot more ground and thus expend more of your dog’s energy in a short time if you walk in a brisk heel. However, it may not be as interesting or stimulating for your dog.

    Once your dog learns to walk without pulling, consider rewarding him by letting him walk on a loose leash more frequently. You can always go back to a more controled walk if he starts acting out.


    Loose leash walking - a happy experience for everyone.

    Loose leash walking - a happy experience for everyone.

    4. Are Cesar Millan’s methods needed for aggressive dogs?

    Cesar Millan’s aversive methods are necessary for aggressive dogs that are about to be destroyed.

    Some people point out that aversive dog training is necessary for the real problem dogs. Some dogs, they argue, may not respond to reward dog training because it is too soft and may not get the message through. Furthermore, if a dog is about to be destroyed, it may be better to use aversive methods to quickly improve his behavior rather than let him be destroyed.

    Cesar Millan, must often deal with owners who are about to give up on their dog, and/or cannot spend much time in fixing all of their dog’s issues.

    In addition, owners may not be able to afford a professional trainer for long periods of time which may be needed for reward methods. Aversive methods, they say, may cause some discomfort; but certain lessons must be learned for the safety of the dog. For example, no running in front of a car, and no biting on strangers.

    Being seriously injured from a car accident or forced euthanasia for aggression is worse than any aversive method.


    Reward dog training works better especially for aggressive dogs.

    There was a really enjoyable program, Growing up Grizzly hosted by Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston, on Animal Planet. This program shows how grizzly bears can be effectively trained with only reward obedience training.

    If bears and other wild animals can be trained in this way, certainly large and aggressive dogs can as well.

    Traditional trainers, used to apply aversive methods on wild animals, e.g. whips for training tigers and lions. More recently, however, animal trainers have found that reward methods that are based on positive reinforcement rather than positive punishment, are more effective at getting animals to perform.

    Such animals are happier, more eager to please, and less likely to become dangerous.

    In fact this University of Pennsylvania 2009 study shows that 1 in every 4 dogs that are trained with aversive methods exhibits aggression during training.

    Contrary to common belief, aversive methods do not lessen aggression in dogs, but may actually encourage it.

    Cesar Millan and Pack Leadership


    Shiba Inu Sephy is a very dominant dog but even he, responded better to reward obedience training.

    Shiba Inu Sephy is a very dominant dog but even he, responded better to reward obedience training.


    Pack leadership can be effectively achieved through the control of resources.

    Pack leadership can be effectively achieved through the control of resources.


    A well-controlled, but fun play session with no aversive methods necessary.

    A well-controlled, but fun play session with no aversive methods necessary.

    A common misconception is that pack leadership can only be achieved with forceful aversive methods.

    Although Cesar Millan does not explicitly say this in his program, it comes through implicitly with the techniques he uses (leash corrections and alpha rolls), that achieves leadership through physical dominance.

    The belief that certain problem, aggressive, or dominant dogs can only be cured through physically forceful aversive methods is just not true. It is a myth, perpetuated by traditional trainers and by shows like The Dog Whisperer.

    Many trainers have successfully rehabilitated aggressive dogs with reward methods. For example, dog trainers in the DogTown animal sanctuary were able to rehabilitate Michael Vick’s fighting Pit Bulls using only reward obedience training.

    It is true that reward methods may take longer before showing results, but the results are much better and last for a lifetime.

    The most powerful argument for using aversive methods is that they may get the dog to respond more promptly and more consistently. This may be required for working dogs, and/or may save a dog’s life in an emergency situation.

    It seems to me that a working dog will be happier and more industrious when he is working for rewards, rather than when he is working to avoid punishment. In addition, a dog that is properly managed, should never be in an emergency situation.


    It is true that reward obedience training may take longer before showing results, but the results are much better and last for a lifetime.

    It is true that reward obedience training may take longer before showing results, but the results are much better and last for a lifetime.

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    86 Comments

    1. Tracey

      Great post! Love your Shiba!

      11:34 pm on February 27th, 2010
    2. That is very true – it does say that.

      However, it is natural for people to want to follow people that they admire. Cesar Millan is a very charismatic sort of fellow, and what he says in the show, in person, would naturally hold more weight than what is displayed as text during commercial breaks.

      8:33 am on February 6th, 2010
    3. Running Wolf

      I would like to say (if no one has said it before)… at the beginning of the show (At least here in Canada on TVtropolis)…. it states do not use these techniques unless you are a professional Dog Trainer… (not your Amateur dog trainer)

      Just had to point it out thanks

      4:40 am on February 6th, 2010
    4. “3 anti disciplinarians afraid of squelching the dogs spirit.”
      I definitely don’t want to do anything that will ‘squelch’ my Shiba Inu’s spirit ;)
      I find that discipline can be very effectively enforced through the control of resources and without the need for physical force.

      3:30 pm on November 30th, 2009
    5. Hello Sistaelle,
      “Even the Monks of New Skeet use leash corrections. ”
      Yes they do. In fact, they were also the ones who originally popularized alpha rolls. Later on they apologized for that because it has been misused by many people.
      “From what I’ve read, you simply wish to promote treat training, bash Milan and talk about your dog breed.”
      lol – Well I do prefer the use of reward training which is different from just treat training. Both reward and aversive training are based on operant conditioning techniques and both can be used to shape a dog’s behavior. Based on what I have read and based on my experiences with my own dogs, my preference is to use reward training. I think it is the safer way to go.
      I also like the Shiba Inu breed and do talk about them.
      Don’t see anything amiss with any of these activities.
      As for Cesar Millan he has techniques that work well and those that are a lot more risky. Here is a very positive article on Cesar Millan. Hope you enjoy it :)
      http://shibashake.com/dog/cesar-millans-positive-r

      3:29 pm on November 30th, 2009
    6. Sistaelle

      I’ve found Cesar’s methods amazing. I don’t wish for my dog to view me as a doggy treat center. I want his respect.
      Even the Monks of New Skeet use leash corrections.
      You are admittedly not a dog trainer. Your reasons for writing such a lengthily opinion piece seems disingenuous.
      From what I’ve read, you simply wish to promote treat training, bash Milan and talk about your dog breed.
      You incessantly refer to it as “my shib inu” instead of “my dog” or using it’s name.
      Milan, his show & methods have done a world of good. Folks who have a problem with his methods usually fall into the category of those who are 1- approval seekers and fear that being the pack leader will cause their dog to dislike them or they are 2- “babiers” – folks who use their dogs as substitute children or 3 anti disciplinarians afraid of squelching the dogs spirit. The problem owner will never recognize him or herself as the problem owners seen on the show. For those folks, no amount of 2nd hand instruction (shows) will help. They’ll never see that they are the problem.
      As to your reference to grizzlies, they aren’t pack animals.

      3:28 pm on November 30th, 2009
    7. “Now I know that he must have done “leash jerks” because she is so afraid of the leash she pees when I try to put it on. ”
      Yeah – the problem with leash jerks and similar aversive techniques is that they are difficult to implement properly, especially by regular people who just watch the stuff on t.v.
      Timing and execution must be perfect, or more harm than good is done.
      As you say, it is also very dependent on a dog’s temperament so being able to read a dog well is also a must.
      For all these reasons, I prefer to use reward training. It is too bad that many people watch The Dog Whisperer on t.v. and then think that makes them into brilliant dog experts.

      3:27 pm on November 4th, 2009
    8. Lee

      Thank you for this informative discussion. A stupid acquaintance wrestled with my sweet little dog until she felt threatened. Then before I could stop the moron he had her in a “alpha roll”. He said she was “about to bite” him. I was furious. He told me that is how the dog whisper does it. I told him never to touch her again. We argued several times about this.
      One day when I was not home he took her for a walk. Now I know that he must have done “leash jerks” because she is so afraid of the leash she pees when I try to put it on.
      Unfortunately, this idiot is visiting my room mate and I am not able to protect her every second. It makes me sick that any fool can see this crap on tv and use it to bully a dog.

      3:26 pm on November 4th, 2009
    9. calmassertiv

      I would love to see more slow-mo videos like this one.

      After studying the sequence over and over I see that the smaller dog was calmly nuzzling the larger dog from underneath, in a purely submissive set of calming gestures, but just as the small dog’s muzzle came up to touch the larger dog’s neck the larger dog’s owner tightened up on the leash. The tightening of the leash is not felt by a dog, it’s the tightening of the COLLAR around the neck that they feel. The pressure of the collar was felt at Exactly the time the smaller dog had his muzzle at the point of collar pressure, so I think the larger dog felt just then that the smaller dog was BITING him, and that caused a DEFENSIVE reaction. The whole thing was a misunderstanding caused by an ill-timed tug by the large dog’s handler. An excellent example of unintended consequences.

      As it turns out, leash aggression is Exactly the issue I’ve just these last 2 days encountered on my morning walk. I came around a corner to see a guy pushing his leashed dog to the ground, and the other guy standing a dozen yards away with his dog at the end of a tense 20-foot rope. At this moment I had two thoughts in rapid succession: First, the alpha-rolling guy has no clue Why, or How, or When, and likely is badly emulating what he saw on Dog Whisperer. The second is that both owners need help.

      The dogs are both 9-month-old puppies, one akita, one golden, and the akita was of course resisting the amateur attempt to put her down. I can see now why some people feel it is irresponsible for National Geographic to show Cesar Millan doing this — not because Cesar does anything wrong, but because in spite of huge banner warnings saying DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME some people just monkey-see-monkey-do and try it anyway. This guy was indeed risking making his dog more aggressive, and risking getting bitten by his own dog. I’ve studied Cesar doing this many times and believe I have a good handle on When, Why, How, etc, but it’s clear, almost humorous in a sick kind of way, that this novice owner had No Business doing what he was doing at that moment. Too little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

      It turns out these dogs are leash-aggressive with each other, and observing the owners it was clear neither knows to Calm an Excited dog. They both said off leash the dogs play great, but on leash, they both walk with dog out front, leash tense, and the dogs pick up on their insecurity and act to protect their respective packs. With so little time at the time, I would like to have been able to do a quick Vulcan mind-meld and teach them all that they were doing wrong in just those few moments out on the street, but alas, Mr. Spock I am not.

      3:25 pm on September 4th, 2009
    10. Thanks for the link calmassertiv. That is a great video on dog body language.
      In terms of what happened, I think they already said it all in the video and the comments section of the link. Great to see all the calming signals from the Shiba looking dog. In real-time though, it would be difficult to catch all that.
      Other owner was probably stressed out too – which is one of the key reasons which make a reactive dog, even more reactive. One of those things – often hard to control for the person.

      3:24 pm on September 4th, 2009
    11. calmassertiv

      The trick to a good argument is to disagree without being disagreeable. You’ve certainly held up your end of that bargain. :)

      I ran across a dog video you might find interesting. I have an explanation for what happens but don’t want to bias your take before you see it. The use of slow motion seems like a really good tool.

      http://www.dogstardaily.com/videos/dog-dog-introdu

      3:23 pm on September 4th, 2009
    12. THanks!

      3:22 pm on September 4th, 2009
    13. “Sometimes being ‘negative’ is a good thing,”
      I have never seen Cesar Millan be negative to the people that he interacts with – and yet he is well admired by many.
      “If it’s not about right and wrong, then what use is it? ”
      The use of it is to create a good life for the dogs we invite into our lives.
      From what I can tell in the interview, Victoria Stilwell was being encouraging and honest. She told the dog owner that training reactive dogs is often a long process requiring a lot of work, time, and patience. However, by relaying her personal story, she was also being encouraging, because she points out the fact that the desensitization process is long for everyone – including herself. Cesar Millan has also had cases, especially fear aggression cases where it has taken him many months to rehabilitate, and then he says he lets the owners do the last part.
      I don’t think we are going to agree on this, and we have already gone over this territory many times. So let’s just agree to disagree and stop while we are ahead. Good luck and have fun in your online and dog adventures.

      3:21 pm on September 4th, 2009
    14. calmassertiv

      Sometimes being ‘negative’ is a good thing, just as correcting a dog is sometimes a good thing. The positive-only-ists have led previously open-minded owners down a dead-end road, leaving many of them frustrated to the point of tears and exhaustion at their inability to handle their family pet. These are well-intentioned, intellectually-honest people who are doing their best to follow the advice of those they think are ‘experts’, but the result is often far from ‘positive’, perpetuating and/or creating needless stress for human and animal alike. We all want the best life for our dogs — I grant even Stilwell that much — but seekers of knowledge need to be warned not to become victimized by politically-correct gobbledygook. Just as you decry the horrendous Physical suffering that arises from the proliferation of puppy mills, I decry what I consider the Spiritual abuse of open-minded owners who are taken advantage of in their innocence by being told to handle their dog in such a way as to leave their dog in a mentally unstable state and that it would be ‘cruel’ and ‘negative’ to step up and correct it.

      Stilwell’s preachy ‘positivism’ doesn’t just fail to FIX an aggressive labrador, it CREATES an aggressive labrador. She got the dog as a puppy, a blank slate, and TAUGHT it to be aggressive, not on purpose, but out of ignorance. She spent 6 months MAKING it aggressive. More time is not going to improve the situation. A change in mindset is what is needed. Ignorance itself is forgivable if the person is honest and open to change, but she is neither, yet people follow what she says because they TRUST her and her self-proclaimed expertise, which they should not.

      If it’s not about right and wrong, then what use is it?

      3:20 pm on September 4th, 2009
    15. Calmassertiv,
      1. Difficult dogs and dogs with behavioral issues can come from any breed, even Labradors. In fact, Cesar Millan always emphasizes this point :)
      2. Number of dogs living with someone is not an indication of quality of life for the dogs, care from the owner, or competence of the owner. Animal hoarders usually have many dogs and many cats that live with them but that does not make them more of a dog expert.
      3. Most people come online to seek information and help for issues that they are facing with their dogs. Sometimes they are also looking for support. Focusing on the negative is often discouraging, and does little to help people and their dogs. Cesar Millan is always positive and very encouraging to the people he meets. Like Victoria Stilwell, he is honest about the training process being difficult and time consuming, but his positive communication style gives people hope, and makes people listen to his advice.
      This is not about who is the best dog trainer, who is the best dog owner, who is right, or who is wrong. This is about sharing information so that we can all provide a good life for our dogs.

      3:19 pm on September 4th, 2009
    16. calmassertiv

      Hi

      I guess we’re back on speaking (writing?) terms again, eh?

      The thing that surprised even ME about Stilwell’s inability to control her own one dog after 6 months was not just that the poster child for anti-discipline positive-speak was admitting that all her high-horse rhetoric was in fact just ineffective hollow fluffy nonsense, something I certainly already knew, but rather that she was SO inept as to not even be able to handle a cute slobbery adorable Labrador

      Retriever. I mean, come on, every lab I ever met was a bundle of Mellow Happy. To actually make one turn Aggressive requires a handler to go above and beyond the normal level of owner ignorance. I always wondered how many dogs she lived with, and to find out it’s just One — ONE — compared to Millan’s DOZENS — after all her pompous pretentions to having great personal knowledge and experience, I was really surprised. Like the disappearance of the Brad Pattison video that got pulled from the internet so people can no longer see what a few of us managed to see, I wonder whether the Washington Post was ever under any pressure to remove the written evidence of what by all rights should be a career-ending admission on her part. I’m sure Animal Planet would try if they could.

      Personally, I think YOU with your TWO dogs have more than TWICE her credibility. You just don’t have as good an agent… :)

      3:18 pm on September 4th, 2009
    17. Hello calmassertiv,
      That is an interesting article. As for Sadie, I think Stilwell gave a good and honest answer –
      Dog training is often a very time consuming exercise. Even Cesar Millan says so. Training reactive dogs especially will take a lot of time and patience – whatever techniques you use.

      3:17 pm on September 4th, 2009
    18. calmassertiv

      I ran across this blog by Victoria Stillwell, where she dropped her dominatrix guard and admitted that after more than 6 months of trying all her silly techniques with HER OWN one dog, a chocolate lab, that she still can’t get it to behave. Her handlers must not have been watching when she wrote this. You have to wade thru a lot of her positive-only nonsense before you get to the part about Sadie — her admission is towards the end. I couldn’t stop laughing when I read it. Her own dog! :)

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discu

      3:16 pm on September 4th, 2009
    19. Hey u! You could try calling them up – but they are going to be closed today and tomorrow.
      Glad to see that you are having so much fun. Hope you get the stuff soon :)

      3:15 pm on September 4th, 2009
    20. Random Person

      Hey did you get my email?? It’s driving me crazy…

      3:14 pm on September 4th, 2009
    21. Dear OP,
      Cesar Millan is not all good, nor is he all bad – that is my opinion. Others can have different opinions and they are free to voice them, as you did. Disagreement does not equate insults and belittling. You may believe that Cesar is a Saint to dogs, but not everyone shares that opinion.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_Millan#Criticis
      Cesar Millan himself has said that many dog trainers are just doing tricks and not behavior modification. Some might find that insulting and belittling. If you wanted to, you could find offense in everything that everyone said that does not exactly match your own beliefs.
      In terms of dog heroes, I really enjoy the show DogTown. It usually airs after The Dog Whisperer on NatGeo. The people there help out a large number of dogs, with very little monetary returns to themselves. I find that show to be truly inspiring.
      I agree that there should be more control at the breeding and point of sale level. I think a great first step would be to get rid of puppy mills. I think that would do more for dogs than anything else. If all us keep writing and talking about puppy mills then hopefully more force can gather behind that effort.

      3:13 pm on September 4th, 2009
    22. OP

      I find your comment “I think Cesar Millan has done some good for dogs. As you say, he has spread the message that dogs have needs. But he can do so much more for dogs. He has a special gift – and he can do more for those (the dogs) who have given him so much.” offensive.
      SOME good? Cesar Milan has donated thousands of dollars to shelters, adopted and retrained several dogs, he’s saved dogs, he does a television show about dogs and writes a monthly magazine as well. He has done infinitely more for dogs than you have and your comment is just laughable. He’s done more than you and A LOT of other people have for dogs.
      Cesar certainly has a special gift and it’s sad to say that there are only 24 hours in a day and human beings need to sleep. I’m sure he is an extremely busy man. Nobody knows what his schedule is like so none of us have any grounds to say what more he can and can’t do because the mans career is a reflection of his hard work. Cesar has worked himself to the bone, being a minority, overcoming obstacles and achieving success because of his blind love and passion for dogs.
      Cesar has always said that the dogs have made him who he is, but in my eyes he has saved countless dogs. He has repaid any ‘debt’ (so to speak) to dogs 100x times over and is still doing more than he ‘has’ to. He doesn’t have to do anything, and he still does more than the average person.
      Please don’t try and belittle his life it’s insulting.
      And on the topic concerning aversive training versus reward training, you can agree to disagree… although I do understand the fear of dog abuse, no smart/good dog owner would jump into something without reading up on it first.
      PS: There needs to be a better way to select dog owners than the current system because that’s half of the problem. People should have to pass an exam and training session before being able to obtain a pet license and being legally able to purchase a pet.

      3:12 pm on September 4th, 2009
    23. Hello Sandy,
      That is a very excellent post!
      Just do as much research as you can, use common sense, and put your dog’s welfare first and things will work out well.
      I have a neighbor who adopted a dog with fear aggression. He (my neighbor) gets so embarrassed whenever his dog barks, and feels that he has to punish the dog to show that he is a good dog parent. I suppose that is natural – I used to get embarrassed too. One day however I just realized that my dogs are really more important than what some random stranger thinks of me – lol. It is not about us, it is about the dogs.
      All this arguing online about who is the better trainer – it doesn’t matter. What matters are your dogs. That is all.
      As you say, we may not agree on everything but we agree on that and that is the most important thing.

      3:11 pm on August 4th, 2009
    24. Stammerin Sandy

      Shib, just want to thank you for a more level reading of

      cesar. Though we disagree on what is “positive” and what is “negative” we whole heartedly agree that this controversy has made both of us search far deeper into this matter of bringing out the best in our beloved dogs.

      I have 2 mini dachs and one large alpha female shep/dobe cross. I never considered the alpha role, as this seems to be something for the dogs to use for themselves. But I did try the leash jerk.

      On my “bad” dachsy, I quickly discaeded it as I realized that I did not have a fine enough touch to do it without the chance of hurting my friend. i found that if he is not listening to me properly, we stop the walk, he must sit, become calm, then we can resume. This to me is the essence of Cesar’s way. Help your friend to understand, that a calm stae of mind is the preferred state. Your friend will be happier, and you will be also.

      On my bigger dog, I find that the occasional leash correction is good, but still will mix it up with the sit and wait routine.

      I think the greatest gift that cesar has given the world of dogs’ is the passion that he has for their welfare. And from this, more people are educating themselves in how to be better friends for their dogs.

      But I do agree 100% with you that Cesar is a very special person, who has a gift when it comes to canine communication. The methods that he uses are not for 95% of the general dog loving population! People, he has been living with dogs for almost his entire life, and not just pets, but WORKING dogs. Please do him the honour of accepting his request, and do not try his techniques without proper training in them! Watch the show, enjoy the mystery of this gift that has been bestowed upon him, but please get professional help if your friend is having trauma’s.

      PS – I still see that 90-95% of the dogs that get walked in my neighbourhood are already quite calm.

      3:10 pm on August 4th, 2009
    25. Dear dog lover,
      If you are happy with alpha rolls and aversive techniques, then by all means used whatever training techniques you wish.
      If you are truly interested in animal psychology, then you may want to check out behavioral psychology and operant conditioning methods.

      3:09 pm on August 4th, 2009
    26. dog lover

      can i just say that u do not know waht you are takin about. I have never owned a dog but was still a fan of The Dog Whisperer. i adopted 2 pitbulls, using Cesar’s techniques and guess what? My dogs are odel citizens. You say to not do the alpha roll because we are not dogs. dogs do this ritual amongst each other and it is the way to convey the same message. what you dont understand is that you are applying human pyschology to dogs. Dogs do this to each other.. they dont reward each other by giving treats so dont act like this is too aversive.

      3:08 pm on August 4th, 2009
    27. Hello HWP,
      “he is using much more than the “aversive tehcniques” that seem to be causing concern.”
      I totally agree with this. Cesar Millan has natural dog kung-fu. He does not need to use any aversive techniques whatsoever. I think eventually he will move away from using them.
      “Oh and it does state very clearly at the beginning and I think at the end of the show that you should never try any of the tehcniques shown without the help of a professional.”
      I really wonder how many people actually take notice of this? :) It would be different if he actually repeated this message within the show from his own lips but like commercials, this textual message just gets ignored or skipped over.

      3:07 pm on August 4th, 2009
    28. HWP

      It’s interesting to see a different perspective on his training techniques. I love watching the Dog Whisperer and it is clear to me that he is using much more than the “aversive tehcniques” that seem to be causing concern. The majority of his power comes from his energy, which gives the dogs he is dealing with no doubt about who is the alpha and who they should be following/obeying. I inadvertedly used his “shh” technique on a strange dog that was barking loudly and non-stop while I was trying to talk to it’s owner (I was on it’s property), I turned round with sheer annoyance at it’s interruption and “shh’d” it without thinking (it was a very librarian-style shh!), the dog stopped barking, looked very confused and walked off – it totally worked and it proved to me that you have to mean it, you can’t fake these things, dogs are very perceptive to energy and they know when you are bluffing. I personally will be using many of the techniques he recommends when I get my next dog.
      Oh and it does state very clearly at the beginning and I think at the end of the show that you should never try any of the tehcniques shown without the help of a professional.

      3:06 pm on August 4th, 2009
    29. lol WOW – I think your comment stands on its own. You obviously have an unbiased opinion and a professional perspective.
      As for me, I try to take an objective view so that I can make the best decisions for my dogs. I am not a professional trainer and never claimed to be one.

      3:05 pm on July 4th, 2009
    30. WOW

      Shibashake, you are obviously a hippy who edits the comments from most people that look at this rediculous blog. Just because you have no control over your own dog and are too ignorant to do some basic research on animal behavior doesn’t mean you should act as if you have an unbiased opinion and a professional perspective. You are ignorant to every extent of the word and provide no value to the average dog owner. Please do some reading to improve your perspective and give value to the art of dog ownership. This is just plain rediculous.

      3:04 pm on July 4th, 2009
    31. OMG!! If I were that woman I would have stepped in, and taken my dog from him !@#$@!#@. I would like to say that I would be calm, but really, I don’t think I would be. Thanks for the link – I was going to do bubble machines in my blog, but I think I will have to do Brad Pattison instead.

      !@#!@$@#@!$@!#@!$#%$^!$#%!@#$#!%$#%@$^%@^$%^!#%!#$%#$^$#!%$!%$#%$

      3:03 pm on July 4th, 2009
    32. Calmassertiv

      Check out Animal Planet’s Brad Pattison beat up a lady’s dog. This guy is one flaming a-hole. http://blip.tv/file/1789530/

      3:02 pm on July 4th, 2009
    33. Calmassertiv

      How did the world get along before Wikipedia?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_the_End_of_My_Leas

      3:01 pm on July 4th, 2009
    34. Calmassertiv

      Actually, if I remember correctly, in the end the man did Not cut his hair. He painted the living room, but so would I if some bozo sprayed graffiti on it :)

      Can this guy really have had Thousands of clients as he claims? What possible word of mouth (other than blech!) could his customers be passing on?

      The teach-the-baby scene was sadly laughable, if you’ll excuse the seeming oxymoron. Outright retarded, really. I’d hate to be This clown’s baby growing up. Imagine the emotional scarring when he yells SPEAK to his infant and it fails to recite Shakespeare on command. How do the producers come Up with these ‘experts’?

      When he walked the dogs down the stairs I thought “That was easy”. Did they magically behave for him the second he picked up the two leashes? What would have been instructional would have been showing the actual process of putting On the leashes and escorting the dogs out of the house, since all of the owner and dog training probably occurred right there, before he even got to starting down the stairs. That almost certainly involved a jerk on the leash (pun intended).

      One final interesting thing. The editors of the show included the lady pilot calling the guy an a-hole, although they beeped out the audio. Instead of hearing the host utter the first letter of the Greek alphabet with no context or meaning around it, the Dog Whisperer editors would likely instead have been able to show Millan invoking the lady’s take-command pilot training to inspire her to assert her leadership over her dogs, to connect in her mind the benefit and indeed the Necessity to the passengers and crew of a calm assertive captain of an airliner with the benefit to the Dogs of an owner acting as a calm and assertive pack leader. The contrast between the two men couldn’t be more striking.

      3:00 pm on July 4th, 2009
    35. LOL

      “showing him talking about Alpha but including no explanation of what that means”

      To be fair, he actually did show that sequence of him leading the dogs down the stairs rather than the owners having the dogs pull them down the stairs. And then he said you have to lead and show them where you want to go – or something to that effect.

      “I did like the lesson where he puts the collar around the lady’s wrist and jerks it, to show how a jerk is not painful”

      Actually I do not really like the wrist test because it is not wholly accurate. To actually feel the effect of a jerk you must put the collar around a person’s neck – and then have the person be pulling forward, and then do the leash correction with the same force that he does on the dogs.

      Also there was a scene later on where he was trying to teach the baby by speaking slow English to him – LOL. I was thinking – Hey why don’t you put the collar on the baby’s neck if it doesn’t cause any pain. :D

      And yes I agree that the show just did not have enough of dog training to be a dog training show. But at least now I know what to do if I want a man to cut his hair – LOL

      2:59 pm on July 4th, 2009
    36. Calmassertiv

      P.S. Listening to some balding guy berate some long-haired guy about how his wanting to have long hair is an affront to his marriage vows is not why I tune in to a dog-behavior show. Hearing the host say ‘bring it on’ in the show intro is painfully reminiscent of Bush’s bullhorned message from ground zero after 9/11, and his off-point bombastic behavior with his clients only reinforces the comparison.

      2:58 pm on July 4th, 2009

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